Paul faithful flock to Spartanburg appearance (sixteen standing ovations!)

GoUpstate.com ^ | 7/21/07 | Jason Spencer

[George W. Bush]

Paul faithful flock to Spartanburg appearance

A little-known Texas congressman seeking the Republican nomination for president visited Spartanburg on Saturday and seemed to arrive with all the makings of rock-star candidate for his party — despite polling low, little name recognition and a relatively small campaign staff.

Supporters call it the “Ron Paul Revolution.” You might’ve seen it on signs or T-shirts. Or MySpace.

Paul received no less than 16 standing ovations during his hour-plus speech and question-and-answer session at the Summit Pointe Event Center — first, when he entered the room, a second one when a re-entered after doing a quick television interview and a third when he was formally introduced.

Thunderous applause also followed when he decried the Patriot Act (ovation No. 4), when he said America should never go to war without a declaration from Congress or because of a United Nations resolution (ovation Nos. 8 and 9), and when he attacked President Bush’s foreign policy and handling of the war in Iraq (ovation Nos. 11, 12 and 13).

“No nation building. No policing of the world. Peace is popular,” Paul said. “The sooner we get out of Iraq, the fewer Americans will die. And I say, it’s time to come home.”

About 400 people — half from out of state — were shoehorned into Summit Pointe for a barbecue luncheon that doubled as a fundraiser for the Spartanburg County Republican Party. The local GOP, after expenses, made an estimated $5,000 on the event.

Paul was invited to speak to the local party faithful (they numbered about 80 in the crowd) after county chairman Rick Beltram took offense at Paul’s explanation of the 9/11 attacks as “blowback” from America’s past intervention in the affairs of other countries during a GOP debate. That led to a widely distributed online tit-for-tat between Beltram and Paul supporters, and Beltram eventually invited Paul here to explain himself.

Blowback, in and of itself, was not mentioned Saturday, though Paul often alluded to it, going as far back as World War I, “which (President) Woodrow Wilson got us into unnecessarily, and drew the lines in the Middle East that we’re suffering for today.”

Beltram said he agreed with Paul on most issues except foreign policy, and that he believes the Texan converted some Upstaters to his revolution with Saturday’s speech.

“I left feeling like a hero,” Beltram said. “I got more positive comments after that event than all the other presidential events combined.”

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

I imagine your "logic" was used before we entered WWII also. Seems to me the guys name was Chamberlin. And he was clueless to the threat.

Ok, take a deep breath and try to follow: Chamberland was the British Prime Minister, and had nothing to do with the United States. The United States had nothing to do with the transfer of the Sudetenland to Germany, we were not a party to that agreement.

US Entry into WWII was caused by the fact that:

1. Japan attacked us.
2. Germany and Italy declared war on us.

Clear now?

[Darksheare]

I liked seeing the “little venice” bit the other day.
That was a neat exposure, considering.
For those not familiar with it, Allegra is over there where the media said “little venice” is supposed to be.

Keep plugging away Allegra, you have my backing.

[JTN]

Gnat.

"The ultimate decision must be made by the women. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own."

Fred Thompson on abortion

[Darksheare]

“Japan attacked us”

Well, gee.
So did the terrorists.
U.S.S. Cole, the ‘93 WTC bombing, Khobar Towers sound familiar?
And let’s not forget the Pentagon, Flight 93, and the hole in Manhatten.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Ever head of Pakistan genius? BTW india has them as well and they slide ever deeper into islam.

Gee, last i checked, Pakistan was an allie in the "War on Terror". Has something changed since that time (earlier today)?

Seems that our concern with Indian nukes was to insure that they're not used on Pakistan and vice versa.

Still waiting to hear about where that nuke is gonna come from, and who has it.

If you want to know about real dangers to this country from terrorists, PM me. i won't share it in a public forum.

[DJ MacWoW]

Hooray! You know who Neville Chamberlain was! He never "got it" either. At least that lib Dem FDR did eventually.

2,403 died in the attack on Pearl Harbor.

2,740 Americans died in the September 11 attack.

Wakeup.

[cripplecreek]

Whoever called you people a bunch of retarded monkeys was right. No point in arguing and playing word games with Sheehadis and Paulistas.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Whoever called you people a bunch of retarded monkeys was right.

About the usual quality of Paulitroll argumentation. Excuse me while i go cry </sarcasm>.

No point in arguing and playing word games with Sheehadis and Paulistas.

No point in expecting intelligent responses from those afflicted with irrational hysteria.

[ejonesie22]

I wanted to let this one lie, but I can’t.

I will first say that I agree, Dr. Paul did not say “9/11 was America’s fault” so maybe that will grant me leave from the single IQ point dunderhead group.

However, he cited out policy which is what we have as a nation. Right or wrong that then put’s him in the “Blame America” bin, no matter how much he explains around it.

Above in post 123, JTN wants us to see through the Lebanese gentleman’s eyes the actions of the US. It is all in perception, so I guess I learned something from the post (something I already was well aware of) The general perception is that Ron Paul blames America, and since he did actually place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the policy and it is “we the people” he is indeed blaming us.

Maybe he has a point, maybe not, but perhaps the strategic thing may have been to keep it low given that he is running for the Republican nomination, not the Democratic one. Perhaps he should have waited until he had the bully pulpit of the White House to present his ideas in this particular case.

As it is, justified or not, he has lumped himself in the Moveon.org and such in the eyes of many. The average Republican sitting in a crowd watching Ron Paul is going to run like hell when they look to their side and see the green haired freaky kid with the “Stop the War/Impeach Bush/Paul 2008” sign, no matter how much sense Paul makes.

But what do I know, I am a single digit IQ dunderhead. Must go play with that magic rubber band now.

[italianquaker]

Dont waste your breath trying to enlighten the traitorous pauls defenders. This buffoon will continue to vote with the rats and Blame America

[TheZMan]

How about the full quote, JTN?

"Government should stay out of it. No public financing. The ultimate decision must be made by the woman. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own."

Thanks.

[DJ MacWoW]

Btw, why am I not surprised that you had NO comment on the verses from the book of surah.

[cripplecreek]

Looking at some of their comments, I suspect that some of them are oozing in from the stormfront forum. I won’t attribute that to Ron Paul because I believe him to be a good man but seriously misguided.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Hooray! You know who Neville Chamberlain was! He never "got it" either. At least that lib Dem FDR did eventually.

Ya think?

Seems that he didn't 'get it' until after the US was attacked, and the Axis powers declared war. He was a fool by your standard.

2,403 died in the attack on Pearl Harbor."War means fightn' and fightn' means killin" ~Nathan Bedford Forrest, General CSA

Another meaningless statistic: Over 1 Million Communist Chinese troops were KIA in the Korean war. i can trade those with you all day.

2,740 Americans died in the September 11 attack.

Not quite accurate. 2,740 People died in the September 11, 2k1 attack, Mostly Americans, but including British Citizens, Chinese Citizens, and about 100 citizens in good standing of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Incidentally, this country looses about 4,000 people every day in the abortion mills.

[italianquaker]

His statement at the debate was pure anti-american nonsense and they just dont see it. They spin spin spin but really he should just apologize.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Btw, why am I not surprised that you had NO comment on the verses from the book of surah.

Why should i or the country care?

If they want to come over here and die as martyrs for Allah the moon god, i'm pretty certain that we can make that happen: efficiently. Everybody will be happy...if only briefly for some of them.

Bottom line: The terrorist threat in this country is essentially nill.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

EEE: If you want such fun, take it to Demonratic Underground where the antiwar antiAmerican pacifists play.

Sorry bub, no can do. If a liberal pro-homosexual rights, pro-abortion, and pro-gun control authoritarian Mayor can run as a Republican, then so can a conservative-libertarian like Ron Paul.

Denigrate Paul all you want but he's making the establishment look like the asses they are.

[DJ MacWoW]

Not quite accurate. 2,740 People died in the September 11, 2k1 attack, Mostly Americans, but including British Citizens, Chinese Citizens, and about 100 citizens in good standing of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Take it up with these people.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434113

TOTAL COUNT 2,976
minus foreigners - 236
AMERICANS 2,740

Incidentally, this country looses about 4,000 people every day in the abortion mills.

So because leftists are stupid enough to kill their own offspring, we should ignore a murderous horde that wants us dead? I suppose to you, that makes sense.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

paleoPaulie and the paleos and Paulistinians.

LOL. You sound like the very people you accuse Paul supporters of being. Lunatics.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Thank you for the clarification.