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To: OldCorps
Thanks:)
heres another question (im just full of them) lol
my fiance is irish roman catholic, just getting him to go into the methodist church were our scout meetings are was a big deal!
he is really disatisfied with the mass we have. he grew up with it in latin, no hand shaking or hugging ect. little changes really bother him too ie: the parish has Christ off the cross, he says he should be on the cross, doesnt like the way communion is given ect.
i would like us to attend church together...do we go orthodox (would he, being so set in his ways?) or do we travel miles to find a different church? we live in wyo so anything else is atleast 2 hours away! if he would find orthodox more to his tastes from his earlier years how would i purpose that to him? sorry if i have lots of Q's, still learning:)
135 posted on 09/03/2003 10:11:48 PM PDT by moondancer
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To: moondancer
I am betting he might like the Orthodox liturgy...

You could just suggest it to him as a visit. For both of you a visit is the best idea to begin anyway.
Feel free to freepmail me if you think I can answer any questions. After the liturgy, we usually have a meal or coffee hour in the church, and it's a good time to speak with people there, including the priest and his wife.

137 posted on 09/03/2003 11:58:31 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: moondancer
he grew up with it in latin, no hand shaking or hugging ect. little changes really bother him too ie: the parish has Christ off the cross, he says he should be on the cross, doesnt like the way communion is given ect.

This former Irish Catholic grew up with the Latin mass, no hugging, no ladies on the altar, kneeling while receiving Communion on the tongue and no rock and roll Masses.

The Orthodox Church has been my life saver.

Is the new church an Orthodox Church of America?

If so, the Liturgy will be in English.

You can go here:

and look to see if any OCA parishes are in your area.

139 posted on 09/04/2003 6:10:00 AM PDT by katnip (I'm still Irish though!!)
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To: moondancer
Given that you have to travel long distances to go to church, I suggest you read a couple of books before you go.

This first book, The Orthodox Church, by Bishop Kallistos (Timothy Ware), a convert like many of us, covers some basic things. However, later editions, such as the ones you will most likely find available, do have some revisionist material. If possible, get an earlier version of the book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140146563/qid=1062679977/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-4476042-6607321?v=glance&s=books

The next book is the Law of God by (Archpriest) Seraphim Slobodskoy. I couldn't find it on amazon.com, or ebay. But i did find it on half.com by ebay at

http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1416166&meta_id=1

you might have to sign in. If so, the link above might not work. This beautiful book goes into great detail about the faith and practice of the church.

It seems your fiance does not like change; that is good of course, because we have not changed our services much since the founding of the church by the apostles. The Divine Liturgy which is celebrated in Orthodox churches everywhere throughout the world on Sundays (and other feastdays) was written by St. John Chrysostom in the 4th century. However, it seems to me that your fiance will have to open his mind to the fact that Orthodox practice is not like a latin mass. Yes, he will hear the creed and the Lord's Prayer, but the service is different; it hasn't changed like RC mass.

Finally, I suggest you call in advance before going to the Orthodox church. Tell the priest your circumstances so he can be more prepared.

May the Lord direct your steps,

In Christ,
Reader John
140 posted on 09/04/2003 6:17:10 AM PDT by OldCorps
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