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Why Does God Allow Evil?
www.khouse.org ^ | Dr. Mark Eastman

Posted on 07/29/2003 7:26:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe

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1 posted on 07/29/2003 7:26:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Welcome back, Milque.

Love your homepage.

LOL
2 posted on 07/29/2003 7:50:57 PM PDT by lockeliberty (Semper Reformanda)
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To: P-Marlowe
Welcome back P-Marlowe.

Having done time in Freeper Purgatory myself, I'm sure it's nice to leave the asbestos suit behind and step into the tranquility of this asylum we optomistically call, Free Republic.
3 posted on 07/29/2003 7:55:52 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: P-Marlowe
I suggest that the argument has been made in a more simple form, which is that evil exists because God has made humans with free will (the free will aspect was touched on in the above argument but not elaborated). Love is a result of the ability to have free will. But even without capacity for love, just having free will alone permits evil. So I suggest that a root cause of evil is free will.

That said, most arguments made about evil were made before chaos theory. It can be argued that some evil is caused because not all effects are deterministic, but rather some are chaotic. This type of evil occurs in complex systems (like nature, or market forces). This is not evil in itself, but rather in its effects. Thus here evil can occur without any "one" determining it. And of course this is relative rather than absolute evil (the child who dies due to a hurricane, the father who loses a job due to computer program driven currency trading half a world away).

4 posted on 07/29/2003 8:09:28 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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After being buried for 3 days and 3 nights, Milquetoast Q. Whitebread has risen.

If you grew up in the 1960's in Southern California listening to KHJ radio, this might sound vaguely familiar:

Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is ALIVE! ALIVE!!!

(20 points to the first freeper who can actually name the person that was "Alive Alive" on KHJ in the 1960's and another 20 points for naming the DJ that made it famous.)

5 posted on 07/29/2003 8:15:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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Didn't grow up in Cali but I'll guess the DJ is Wolfman Jack.
6 posted on 07/29/2003 8:21:18 PM PDT by lockeliberty (Semper Reformanda)
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To: P-Marlowe
Why Does God Allow Evil?

Be careful of good guy, bad guy!

Trusting hearts are vulnerable!

Beware of a dark_ shadow who wants to befriend!

Some charades are endless metamorphosis! !

7 posted on 07/29/2003 8:22:40 PM PDT by restornu
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Sorry guy, no can do! i am old enough to remember free form AM radio, and among my earliest memories were Bob Prince calling Pittsburgh Pirate baseball games, and Garner Ted Armstrong on The World Tomorrow broadcast before Herbert W. Excommunicated him. Unfortuantely, short wave and hence California radio was not part of that mix.
8 posted on 07/29/2003 8:23:48 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ("I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum!" -Roddy Piper;)
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To: P-Marlowe
I was in diapers at the time so don;t know who but Wolfman Jack is a good guess. :-) And it wasn't Elvis.....
9 posted on 07/29/2003 8:58:47 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: restornu
Be careful of good guy, bad guy!
Trusting hearts are vulnerable!
Beware of a dark_ shadow who wants to befriend!
Some charades are endless metamorphosis! !

Sounds like something you'd find in a mystery novel fortune cookie. :-)


10 posted on 07/29/2003 9:09:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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To: CARepubGal; lockeliberty
It wasn't Wolfman Jack. I will provide a clue. The DJ could have been known as the "Actual Godfather of a Carbon and Iron alloy."

Once you know the DJ you should be able to find the person who was said to be alive, alive.

11 posted on 07/29/2003 9:13:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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Shotgun Tom? The rest escapes me (he had a show when I was in grade school but the details are hazy).
12 posted on 07/29/2003 9:21:52 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: restornu
LOL!
14 posted on 07/29/2003 9:23:46 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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To: P-Marlowe
read later
15 posted on 07/29/2003 9:27:35 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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(20 points to the first freeper who can actually name the person that was "Alive Alive" on KHJ in the 1960's and another 20 points for naming the DJ that made it famous.)

"Tina Delgado is alive, alive!" The Real Don Steele.

Glad you're back. :)

BigMack

16 posted on 07/29/2003 9:45:54 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Prov. 9:7-8)
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I wonder how many skeptics have encountered men who are deeply evil although in ordinary circumstances, seem very ordinary. I am thinking about Hannah Arendt's famous remark about the "banality of evil."
17 posted on 07/29/2003 9:47:17 PM PDT by RobbyS
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A universal sense of moral right and wrong can only come from a source outside of ourselves: a transcendent source, a moral Lawgiver.

Exactly!

In the absence of God, morality is entirely subjective -- a matter of taste, of aesthetics. As Dostoevsky wrote, "If there is no God, then everything is permissible".

18 posted on 07/29/2003 9:53:27 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
40 points to the Big Mack!

How did you figure that out? Are you that old? Or are you a radio buff?


19 posted on 07/29/2003 9:55:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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How did you figure that out?

I can't tell a lie (well I could:) but I Googled it.

BigMack

20 posted on 07/29/2003 10:05:18 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Prov. 9:7-8)
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