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The problem is not with me and my not fighting alongside the Novus Ordo Church, the problem is with the Novus Ordo Church itself. Most of us can't do anything but run away from its putrefaction in order to protect our kids from the contagion.

Novus Ordo .... Church???

There is but one Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church!! or has the SSPX eliminated the Nicene Creed from its chapel services?

"run away from its putrefaction" .... in so saying, you slander the faith of millions of catholics worldwide and deny the very church established by Christ. When Christ said:

"Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.", he set no time limits.

The Catholic Church is the community of believers founded by Jesus to enable his Work of Salvation to continue for all people in every age. Jesus gave the care of his Teaching, his Sacraments and his Authority to St Peter and the Apostles who would pass these to their successors, the Pope and the Bishops of the Church in every age.

The Church cannot err on matters of Faith or Morals because she is constantly guided by the Holy Spirit. This is called ‘infallibility’. Likewise the Bishops of the Church, when gathered with the Pope in an ecumenical council, teach infallibly on matters of Faith or Morals. The Pope himself, as Vicar of Christ, may also make infallible pronouncements on matters of Faith or Morals.

Our response to these teachings should be one of obedience. Even when a teaching is not defined ‘infallibly’, we should still obey that teaching.

Better to retreat to a remnant of true Catholics practicing the true faith.

Your insults never stop.

"The Lord's Supper, because of its connection with the supper which the Lord took with his disciples on the eve of his Passion and because it anticipates the wedding feast of the Lamb in the heavenly Jerusalem. [Cf. 1 Cor 11:20; Rev 19:9.] The Breaking of Bread, because Jesus used this rite, part of a Jewish meal when as master of the table he blessed and distributed the bread, [Gal 3:27 .] above all at the Last Supper. [Cf. Mt 26:26 ; 1 Cor 11:24 .] It is by this action that his disciples will recognize him after his Resurrection, [Cf. Lk 24:13-35.] and it is this expression that the first Christians will use to designate their Eucharistic assemblies; [Cf. Acts 2:42, 46 ; Acts 20:7, 11.] by doing so they signified that all who eat the one broken bread, Christ, enter into communion with him and form but one body in him. [Cf. 1 Cor 10:16-17.] The Eucharistic assembly (synaxis), because the Eucharist is celebrated amid the assembly of the faithful, the visible expression of the Church. [Cf. 1 Cor 11:17-34 .]" Catechism of the Catholic Church #1329

"And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." - Luke 22:19-20

When He broke the bread, did He have his back to His disciples? The organic growth of the ritual of the Mass had achieved its ultimate development in the fifteenth century, up until that time, and thus was frozen (i.e. preserved), by Pope St. Pius V in 1570 with the Missal he published preserving the definitive form of the Roman Rite Mass for all ages.

The essence of the Mass is the sacrifice of Jesus to His Father being made present by the power of the Holy Spirit through the priesthood of Jesus Christ in the consecration of the Mass. The essence of the Mass as the sacrifice of Jesus to His Father is expressed by the various rituals that surround this essential fact. The Eucharist, that is, the presence of Jesus Christ, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity is the reality of the Mass.

As much as we can find fault with the origin, implementation, and the interpretation of the Novus Ordo Mass, we may never call into question its validity.

Why should anybody want to defend such a debacle?

Catholics may not question the power of the Holy Father to implement another Rite. And, as a catholic, I have the right, according to Canon law, to a "valid liturgy". That is what separates me from the sheeples who are ignorant of the GIRM. As a Confirmed catholic, I have the obligation to address any and all abuses wherever I find them ... and there are many. Nothing is accomplished by those who separate themselves from the church.

First, I am not the one who is making the distinction between what is going on now and all that went before. Rome itself does this, calling itself "the conciliar" Church--a thing unknown before, a Holy See cutting itself off from its own past and its own preconciliar Catholic tradition. It does this deliberately, almost never at all referring to preconciliar documents or papal pronouncements, but acting as if it were starting completely from scratch. This is why it attempted to destroy the old traditions and the old Mass--it wishes to invent and impose something altogether new, a quasi-Protestant faith which is unCatholic.

Second, I do not slander Catholics, nor do I tell lies when I speak of the current putrefaction. There is only one word for what is going on today from the Vatican on down: that word is CORRUPTION. It is absurd to believe I slander fellow Catholics by saying this. They are not the agents of the present putrefaction--this is the role Novus Ordo church leaders themselves play. These men resemble the Pharisees Christ himself had castigated as hypocrites who are whited sepulchres, outwardly impressive, but inwardly full of dead men's bones. So you are wrong to think I demean fellow Catholics. I do not. They are only the victims of the present corruption, not the causes of it.

Finally, if you mean by the Church the popes and bishops who run the show, then OF COURSE the Church can make mistakes. It is as subject to abuse and corruption as any other human institution and to believe otherwise is sheer superstition. Yes, under very constrained circumstances, the Holy Spirit guarantees His protection from error. But the First Vatican Council made it very clear this is a narrowly circumscribed guarantee. NOVEL DOCTRINES are NOT granted such divine protection. It spelled it out very specifically: the Holy Spirit protects only the revelation HANDED-DOWN BY SACRED TRADITION. Yet it is this very tradition which the Novus Ordo Church is doing all it can to suppress and undermine.

"Catholics may not question the power of the Holy Father to implement another Rite."

Where did you get this truly crackpot idea? Why do you keep making such WRONG sweeping statements? OF COURSE we may question the pope's authority to do this--and some of the best liturgists in the world have done so. Here is Klaus Gamber himself on this very subject:

"Since there is no document that specifically assigns to the Apostolic See the authority to change, let alone to abolish the traditional liturgical rite; and since, furthermore, it can be shown that not a single predecessor of Pope Paul VI has ever introduced major changes to the Roman Liturgy, the assertion that the Holy See has the authority to change the liturgical rite would appear to be debatable, to say the least." (The Reform of the Roman Liturgy, p. 39.)