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To: A_Thinker
Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

YHWH has always know His plan for Messiah. This scripture, again, doesn't prove Messiah is YHWH. Another retroactive reading. Why do you think the doctrine of the trinity wasn't required for salvation until 425 ad?

124 posted on 07/01/2003 2:37:10 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

YHWH has always known His plan for Messiah.


So ... you read this as speaking of the concept of Messiah, ... as opposed to the person of Messiah ?
... shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel ... "


This scripture, again, doesn't prove Messiah is YHWH.

I believe that this verse speaks to the Messiah's pre-existence, once again, ... not the whole of the argument for Messiah's deity.

Why do you think the doctrine of the trinity wasn't required for salvation until 425 ad?

I don't believe that belief in the Trinity is necessary for one to be saved.

I do, from my studies, believe that it is true ... but, I don't believe that it is necessary.

134 posted on 07/01/2003 2:55:57 PM PDT by A_Thinker
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; A_Thinker
Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

YHWH has always know His plan for Messiah. This scripture, again, doesn't prove Messiah is YHWH. Another retroactive reading. Why do you think the doctrine of the trinity wasn't required for salvation until 425 ad

Except the scripture says HE was from everlasting not a thought from everlasting .Your savior had a beginning as such he is not from everlasting

Steve of course we look retroactively at the Old Testament . Jesus used it to prove who he is and His purpose. It was prophetic.

As a historian wrote it does not matter what it says it matters what it means. The Jews did not and do not know what it means .

222 posted on 07/01/2003 5:33:45 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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