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To: Maximilian
The adults of the 1950s were all children at one time. Somehow they got the message, and a very large majority went on to become believing and practicing Catholics.

Or maybe not. The adults of the 1950's were the ones who subjected us to the juvenalia of Vatican II. It wasn't a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds who chaged everything.

Many of us feel that the failings of the present are to be laid directly upon the feet of the so-called "Greatest Generation" who generally ran things into the ground from 1940-1970.

These were also the adults who provided such poor catechesis to their young that most of the youth (Baby Boomers) simply dropped out of the Church like leaves from a tree in fall in the 1965-1980 period. The shallowness of the Baby Boomer generation originated in the upbringing they had from their parents, the genesis of which can be traced to the end results of World War II, and the wave of social libertinism (epitomized by the likes of Dr. Spock, the emergence of Playboy, and the Kinsey Report) that swept through the world after that. This period was also the origins of the ugly architecture movement, and the mindless materialism we are now subjected to. Lastly, the planning of Vatican II and the revolution occurred mostly in the ten years leading up to it - 1952-1962.

Lets not be blinded by the dazzling failure of the 1965-1980 period. Lets keep a focus on the causes. That will help us have a better grasp on the present, and also evaluate the so-called orthodox revival being claimed, especially as regards the pertinent question of "Where is the revival in morals if there is a revival in faith?"

16 posted on 05/23/2003 8:18:23 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Many of us feel that the failings of the present are to be laid directly upon the feet of the so-called "Greatest Generation" who generally ran things into the ground from 1940-1970.

I agree with your analysis of the so-called "greatest generation." But you're mixing up the causes and effects in terms of this discussion. The point is that when these people were children, the adults of that time were able to inculcate the faith in them. Later they lost the faith and went haywire after Vatican II.

But the Church of the generation who were adults when the "greatest generation" were being educated believed that their goal was to teach and sanctify every Catholic. They were seeking every soul. They did not assume 100% failure as the de facto standard, and then rejoice if even 1% succeeded.

The approach represented by the author of this book would be like the Good Shepherd who sees his 100 sheep wander away, and then rejoices because 1 sheep found his way back into the fold.

20 posted on 05/23/2003 9:35:43 AM PDT by Maximilian
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