[Pyro7480]

I've heard both "For us men and our salvation" and "For us and our salvation" during the Mass. That doesn't disturb my peace during the Liturgy as much as when people substitute "God" for male personal pronouns. I mean, cut the PC crap people! This is the Mass, not your bloody feminist experiement. The worst was when I heard one woman during the Our Father say "Our Father and Mother." I've been trying to maintain my peace of heart and mind when I heard it, but it irks me that they put their ideology before their religion.

[SoothingDave]

That doesn't disturb my peace during the Liturgy as much as when people substitute "God" for male personal pronouns. I mean, cut the PC crap people!

Amen. I am blessedly free from such nonsense, except of course for the hymns which have been bowdlerized. The amusing thing is that "inclusive" language is as insulting to women as "affirmative action" is to minorities. If a woman can not look in a dictionary and see that "man" is an inclusive term in the English language, then she deserves all of the resentment she feels.

All of which is secondary. The point is that no one is to alter the texts used in the Mass without approval from Rome.

SD

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

You would love my Parish then , actually a Newman Center. It has a large number of non-Student members, associate, who are very much to the left, while the students are too the right. Our brave pastor has to try working with both groups. He cannot lose the students because the Center serves them, he cannot lose the associates because they comprise almost all the funding. We have associates, who do Our Mother; we don't kneel at the Consecration (a few of us do), lots of singing and guitar playing (which actually, is tastefully done since we have so many darn talented musicians); gender neutral langauge, read my post to SD, has my Easter Vigil story. God Bless