[Maximilian]

Great quotes.

When the stomach is full, it is easy to talk of fasting.

I'm afraid that describes me to a "T". We'll see how I do in sticking to the rules for the next 40 days.

Total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation.

That is so true also. Once you don't have a clear dividing line, it takes more will power to stop at the right point. Like what constitutes a "collation" and when does it become a real meal?

It is impossible to engage in spiritual conflict unless the appetite has first been subdued.

That's why we need periods like Lent when we focus on mortification. I'm afraid that my "spiritual combat" is mostly imaginary due to the laxness of my control of appetities.

[nickcarraway]

I think there are a lot of traditions to call upon, but the bottom line is that each penitent has to decide what will be meaningful fasting and abstinence. While that doesn't mean taking the easist possible route, it won't be the same for everyone. We should remember we aren't merely fulfilling an obligation to the bare minimum- and that great Graces come from our sacrfice. Our sacrfices are very little compared to the sacrfices Jesus made, which we are commemorating.