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To: Frumanchu; RnMomof7
The neutral view of free will is impossible. It involves choice without desire. That is like having an effect without a cause. It is something from nothing, which is irrational.

While i understand what Dr. Sproul is getting at, this is an unfortunate statement. Something from nothing is not irrational, it is indeed, how the creation came about, and no one has ever successfully accused God of irrationality! It would have been better to say that for finite, limited human beings, it is something from nothing, which is irrational...ex nihilo, nihilo fit only applies to the creation, not the Creator.

4 posted on 02/24/2003 10:16:30 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (He must increase, but I must decrease)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Something from nothing is not irrational, it is indeed, how the creation came about, and no one has ever successfully accused God of irrationality!

I would agree in the case of God's creative power. He created the Universe from nothing. But in the case above we're addressing human will. Indeed, does not God's will (at least as far as we're concerned) also operate by the same principle as ours insofar as God does not make random choices but rather those according to His desires (which, fortunately for us, happen to be immutably good)?

5 posted on 02/24/2003 11:18:39 AM PST by Frumanchu (Warning - the post you just read may contain statements of an offensive nature. Truth hurts...)
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