[RnMomof7]

As I've come to understand calvinism after speaking with open calvinists, I understand that God has intentionally planned everything. That is, if the plan were a document that existed right before creation occurred, then there would be nothing that has EVER happened that would not be in that planning document. Satan's rebellion, Adam's sin, Christ's crucifixion.

Xzins do you believe that God did not foreknow the fall? If He did ..did He make a plan to remedy it? When ?

One of the constants I see here on FR is a refusal to believe that God has any authority here on this globe..Everything is an accident outside of Gods control..

I am beginning to think that Arminians are diests at heart

[xzins]

Rn, you know that I think God has absolute foreknowledge. Of course He foreknew it all.

The open calvinists I've talked to said that God PLANNED everything, barring nothing, and that His Plan was NOT based on His foreknowledge. You either subscribe to that with these other calvinists or you don't. I see their viewpoint reflected in the Westminster Confession.