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Big Catholic family bump!

Normally I wouldn't want to circulate anything from Crisis, but this is a good article. It shows the ways that the Church has become the biggest obstacle to the faithful that want to practice what is preached. So many Catholics use birth control in order to afford Catholic schools. And they get no support whatsoever from their parish. Quite the contrary -- Catholics who accept children as blessings from God are actively discouraged from being "extreme."

The Bascoms, for example, converted to Catholicism specifically because of the birth control issue. Then when they entered the Catholic Church they discovered that they could not afford Catholic schools, that they were given no encouragement from their parish, and that they were considered way out of touch with the "post Vatican II" Church.
2 posted on 02/22/2003 12:52:36 PM PST by Maximilian
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“I have been dismayed at the increasing tendency of Catholic schools, private for the most part, to not offer multi-child discounts for families with many children,” said Hasson, an author and frequent speaker on homeschooling. “I know of situations where couples are advised by priests or their pastors not to have more children, just so they can afford the Catholic school.”

In such circumstances, large families naturally congregate into clusters of homeschooling families. They form their own organizations and create their own systems of support apart from the parish community. If the homeschoolers feel wronged by the Church community, or even if they just feel unwelcomed (they often feel both), then the character of the homeschool community won’t only be a parallel Catholic universe; it will be an antagonistic one.

The irony of the situation isn’t lost on large fami­lies. They’re following the Church’s teaching and sacri­­fi­c­ing to do so. They don’t ne­ces­sarily ex­pect an award from the Church—but they don’t want to be treat­ed like they’re from Mars ei­ther.

Families complain about pews that make it impossible for children to sit still, impossible CCD schedules for large families, scowling homilists, in-con­ve­nient crying rooms, and tiny, hidden bathrooms.

The Bascoms used to be Evangelical Christians. They are Catholic now. Were the Evangelicals more open to their children? In some ways, yes. “The [Protestant] church had lots of programs for kids,” Paul Bascom said. In other ways, not at all: “Doctrinally, contraception and even abortion were an option.”

6 posted on 02/22/2003 1:19:11 PM PST by Dajjal
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I agree with you-except as to the issue of Catholics using borth control to afford Catholic schools. This is as bogus as an excuse as those who have fewer kids to buy another Mercedes. The price of Catholic schools is not the issue! Plenty of parochial schools are affordable, and families that want to find a way to follow their priorities.
8 posted on 02/22/2003 1:36:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I come from a large Catholic family. The parochial school we attended would only charge tuition for the two eldest children in school. I don't hear of this policy anymore.
17 posted on 02/22/2003 2:16:10 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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Thanks for the bump and interesting read. Having myself come from a large family (1 of 9), I can appreciate all the good and bad that comes with alot of children. I would have to say that there is definitely more good. God Bless my parents!

My husband and I sent our children to Catholic schools, but pulled them out about 4 years ago when our diocese adopted the ROTTON "Growing in Love" series. Also pulled them out because the religion they were being taught was so watered down and bland, it just was not worth the kind of money we were being charged. We were never given a discount even though at one point we had all four in the same school. The sacrifice was just too much and as I mentioned, their religious instruction was awful. I know there are some good Catholic schools out there, unfortunately there are none in my area.

29 posted on 02/22/2003 4:36:28 PM PST by Gerish
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So many Catholics use birth control in order to afford Catholic schools.

Many people defend their birth control habits by bringing up the issue of affordability. That's always a lame excuse. Entrance into Heaven doesn't cost a dime.

33 posted on 02/22/2003 5:48:02 PM PST by Aloysius
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A family in our Parish recently had their tenth child.
God bless them......they are the most loving, well behaved bunch of kids I have ever seen.
All the children are home-schooled, too.
40 posted on 02/22/2003 6:18:02 PM PST by mickie
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Thanks.

Two of my bosses (they are cousins) have 15 kids each. Other Catholic relatives at work also have large families...

They're full of the most beautiful girls and handsome boys I've ever seen. I have the pleasure of working with some of the older kids, and they're the most well-behaved young adults I've known. They're ALL homeschooled, or have been. About 80% of the company's employees are family, excluding me. Some of the non-family employees make wisecracks about the large families, but usually they're the ones whose kids are criminals and/or live very immoral lives. When I hear these remarks, I usually ask, "So, how are YOUR kids doing?"

My wife and I only have one daughter - 9. She is unable to have anymore kids, but the three of us feel somewhat "adopted" into the larger family of the Church.

56 posted on 02/23/2003 9:23:27 AM PST by Possenti
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And they get no support whatsoever from their parish.

I hate to rain on your parade but parish support for this has been evaporating for years...and for good reason.

It has to do with basic economics since most parishes simply do not have (and would not have) the money to educate these very much wanted children.

58 posted on 02/23/2003 1:36:26 PM PST by rmvh
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why not crisis? (just curious)
69 posted on 02/23/2003 4:17:44 PM PST by Askel5
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