Posted on 02/06/2003 8:52:14 AM PST by ksen
Icky! I should have proof read a little better!
"This is also why emphasizing and relying on a specific Bible translation is useless"
There, that conveys my thought a bit better.
"Agreed My 1st Bible was a "Good News for Modern Man " a terrible translation and it made my heart leap for joy...."
Yes, we had that translation read at the end of dinner when I was a kid. It made it far easier to understand and grasp the basics as opposed to the difficulty I would have had at 5 if I continually heard from the KJV or the ASV.
As I mentioned before, I do some work with "disadvantaged youth" -many who can hardly read. These kids have a difficult time with the NIV -imagine how hard it is for them to read from the KJV that some of the church groups bring in for them. You wouldn't believe how exceited these kids are when I bring in a NIrV (New International Readers Version) which is written for children aged 6-10 and for older kids who have difficulty reading. These kids aren't ready to enter into a superlapsarian or infralapsarian discussion and they don't need they meaty better translations. Give them the milk that they can handle at present -then bring on the meat.
After all, it's not simply the words themselves which bring people to the truth. It's the work of the Holy Spirit through those words.
I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit can work through a weaker translation such as the NIrV.
Jean
I'm assuming this is meant to have meaning towards Calvin as well.
You need to remember that Calvin never practiced law. His father determined for him to study for the priesthood initially. When he had some personall issues with his local church and when he saw that there was much demand for lawyers (i.e. better pay), he then changed little Johnny's course study to law.
However, Calvin always held to his love of languages and the classics. His interest was not in law studies.
Jean
I suppose that Calvin would say that reason CANNOT submit to the Revelation unless it is sealed by the Spirit.
From the article:
But I answer,that the testimony of the Spirit is superior to reason. For as God alone can properly bear witness to his own words, so these words will not obtain full credit in the hearts of men, until they are sealed by the inward testimony of the Spirit.
So unless one is sealed by the Spirit, then Reason will not avail them.
Gerstner, in his book on Jonathan Edwards, lists Edwards' teaching on the role of reason, and it is probably clearer, but we would be drifting far off the topic of the thread, and as a result i hesitate on that.
I don't think it would be that far-off topic since Calvin here is addressing Reason and Revelation. So be my guest and post it if you want.
Oh, you caught that? ;^)
Yes, "thinly" veiled as it was, LOL!
Jean
About what?
Ahh, don't feel dumb. Every time I think I may know something, someone pops in here and shows me that I have no idea what I'm talking about. ;^)
Mom, everybody has to learn it sometime and somewhere, Let us pray that less people learn it in the lake of fire!
Remind me to tell you about the "beating" that i took at the hands of Dr. Arthur Lindsley once, when i had the audacity to try and challenge him on something he had contributed to Classical Apologetics, The John Gerstner school of apologetics (who taught both Sproul and Lindsley), had simple rules 1)Take no prisoners; 2)God shows mercy, you are not Him! 3) Give no place to "fuzzy headed" thinking. 4)If you can't torture your students, go do something else for a living.
Fortunately for you, Gerstner has been dead for a couple of years.
AMEN! Hi Kevin :)
BigMack
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