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[yendu bwam]

Does anyone recall the history of the Arian Heresy.

What was it, ThomasMore?

[Scupoli]

Thank you for sharing that with us. It is important information to know.

[Scupoli]

It has been said and I have found it true personally that the two most powerful weapons against evil are the daily recitation of the Rosary and reception of the Eucharist.

[TotusTuus]

I posted this longer version of the prayer to the Archangel St. Michael on another thread concerning his feast day. The post (and following) has links to the source. I believe this is Pope Leo XIII's original prayer composed to St. Michael:

PRAYER TO ST. MICHAEL

O Glorious Archangel St. Michael, Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and Powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, spirits of evil. Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in His own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist Thee, nor was there place for them any longer in heaven. That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan, who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels. Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay and cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the crown of eternal glory. This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men, of his depraved mind, corrupt heart, spirit of lying, impiety, blasphemy, his pestilent breath of impurity, and of every vice and iniquity. These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered. Arise then, 0 invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate Thee as their protector and patron; in Thee Holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious power of hell; to Thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, do Thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer seduce the nations. Amen

V. Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered hostile powers.

R.. The Lion of the tribe of Juda has conquered, the root of David.

V. Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord.

R. As we have hoped in Thee.

V O Lord, hear my prayer.

R. And let my cry come unto Thee.

Let us pray.

O God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon Thy holy name, and we suppliantly implore Thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin Immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel St. Michael, Thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and ruin of souls. Amen.

Pope Leo XIII 1888

[Desdemona]

80+ deg F. Where are my shorts?

Wind chill of 10+F. And man, is it windy.

[Maximilian]

Thanks for the link to the previous thread and for the longer version of the prayer to St. Michael. Here is another post from that thread:

Spirit Daily

Removal Of St. Michael Prayer Came As Church Encountered 'Smoke' Of Satan

By Michael H. Brown

It has to be considered a mistake. It has left the Church without a vital safeguard. Someday, it may will be aligned with great smoke that rose in the sanctuary.

We speak here of the Prayer to the Archangel Michael. It's a prayer that was devised by Pope Leo XIII after some sort of mystical experience in which the pontiff was given to understand that Satan was in a special period of aggression. It was then that the prayer was devised, and in 1886 Leo XIII ordered it said at the conclusion of Mass, which was done until the fateful 1960s -- when a torrent of evil suddenly poured into the world. In 1964, in the first wave of post-Vatican II changes -- in what was known as the Instructio Prima -- this magnificent and potent invocation to the archangel who threw Lucifer from heaven was removed from low Mass in the Catholic Church along with a reading of a last Gospel.

Since that time, what have we seen? Priests who have left the priesthood. Pews that emptied. And now, scandal. Across society, Christianity and particularly the Catholic segment has become the focus of disdain in a culture that opened itself to infernal legions. Removal of the prayer-- along with the near-elimination of exorcism -- allowed an influx of evil. In 1972, speaking in the aftermath of Vatican II, Pope Paul VI himself said "the smoke of Satan has entered by some crack into the temple of God."

It was in 1964 that the new standard was directed, and in 1968 that the new liturgy, minus the prayer, was authorized.

What happened in that specific period?

Our youth strayed. The choir was replaced by rock bands. Priests were made to feel outcasts. There were even songs dedicated to the devil. Television replaced the majesty of religion. Free sex. Drugs. Abortion. Instead of public prayer there was now public profanity. In the same chronological window that saw elimination of the Michael prayer, the first Church of Satan rose (1966) in the U.S. and the satanic Bible three years later.

It was against such things that the prayer was potent, as was the practice of deliverance, something Jesus had commanded. Most of the exorcisms were taken out of baptismal rites, and the Church eliminated the minor order of "exorcist" (which young men traveled on the way to priesthood). Exorcism became rare at the same time that the devil became pervasive.

Our current Pope is trying to stem this tide, and on at least two occasions, in 1982 and on September 7, 2000, personally conducted exorcisms. He was accompanied by Father Gabriel Amorth, the official exorcist of Rome, who says:

"I believe that it was a mistake to have eliminated, without a suitable replacement, the prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel that we used to recite after every Mass. I am convinced that allowing the ministry of exorcism to die is an unforgivable deficiency to be laid squarely at the door of bishops. Every diocese should have at least one exorcist at the cathedral, and every large parish and sanctuary should have one as well. Today the exorcist is seen as a rarity, almost impossible to find. His activity, on the other hand, has an indispensable pastoral value, as valuable as that of the preacher, the confessor, and those who administer the other sacraments. The Catholic hierarchy must say a forceful mea culpa. I am personally acquainted with many Italian bishops; I know of only a few who have ever practiced or who have assisted during an exorcism or who are adequately aware of this problem."

It's time to bring Michael back. Evil can not stand in his presence. The situation is growing severe -- as we saw on September 11 when the very smoke from the World Trade Center formed demonic images.

[ThomasMore]

Thanks for the full prayer.

[ThomasMore]

For an abbreviated explanation try here

[TotusTuus]

....Arian Heresy.

9 on the heresy richter scale, compared to a 6 for the Protestant Reformation. Reason for the strongly repetitive Trinitarian prayers used in the Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and St. Basil the Great used by the Eastern Rites.

[tiki]

Prayers on the way

[Maximilian]

How is it that a so-called neo-Catholic like me has been saying this prayer regularly since childhood (so have never lost it) and yet it is brand new to you, yendu bwam, and relatively new to you Max?

You are very fortunate. We're all very much aware of how much in the past couple decades the Catholic experience varies from parish to parish, diocese to diocese, country to country. I've been a practicing Catholic all my life, 12 years of Catholic education, reasonably conservative home parish, joined a group of conservative Dominicans on campus (in protest against the execrable campus ministry), attended a very conservative Novus Ordo service with the Ordinary done in Latin ever since around 1981 until I started attending the Latin Mass, yet in all those years, the existence of a prayer to St. Michael (a prayer that until recently was mandatory for all Catholics) was never so much as mentioned.

[tiki]

That is odd because as a convert that was one of the first prayers I learned and the reason I remember was that the Pre-VII people that we regularly prayed with didn't know it. They were from Montana, California, Lousiana and had grown up in the Church and didn't know it. They couldn't explain why they didn't know it and felt like they hadn't ever heard it before.

[perform_to_strangers]

If it was a part of the Mass before VatII, would they have heard it only in Latin and therefore not caught it?

[Dajjal]

Prayer bump for Fr. Fiore.

[Maximilian]

If it was a part of the Mass before VatII, would they have heard it only in Latin and therefore not caught it?

No, it is recited by the entire congregation in English after Low Mass. But I have stopped being surprised by all the things that pre-Vatican II Catholics (like my own parents) don't know. I'm sure there's a wide variety of reasons, such as pre-Vatican II Catholicism just WAS, it's very existence was so huge that you didn't need to be intellectual about it, you just went along with the flow. Another hypothesis I sometimes consider is that someone put stupid pills in the water around 1964 and everyone forgot everything they ever knew before that. Sometimes I think that theory 2 is the only one that can account for what happened.

[ventana]

Sioabhan, I remember that letter to history_matters well. Egan is not to be trusted. V's wife

[dsc]

"Egan was just appointed. Barring a major scandal he won't have a successor for a long time."

This isn't a major scandal?