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To: Scupoli
I do think they need to better educate themselves and clean up the House

I agree. But is this document not part of the housecleaning? Why else, in section 6.2, do they say that the retreat centers will have to stop promoting this garbage? And issuing the document publicly, with Navarro-Valls telling the press that it is provisional, will help them get the reaction necessary to write an even better document. If you think you can educate Rome about a thing or two, and perhaps you can on this matter, I honestly think you should submit what you think to the Congregation (and the CDF too).

Also, section four says more than "get guidance". It lists several questions which, if applied in practice, will help the person to eliminate virtualy all of the New Age theory out there, will it not? Of course, the whole movement is essentially idiosyncratic--each individual sort of making up his own concoction of religious views as he goes. So individuals might be able to spin things differently, but does the section not give easiy applied ways of ruling out alot of garbage?

As I see it, this document, coming on the heels of the CDF's Note on politicians, the recent move to banish transsexuals from the religious life and priesthood (a first step),and the forthcoming document on gays in the priesthood, all these signs spell that Rome is slowly, perhaps even imperceptibly slowly, cleaning house...

23 posted on 02/04/2003 3:55:43 PM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: pseudo-justin
Well, the Church doesn't care what the laity think and they certainly don't care what I think. But, had I been writing this article I would have started with two major points: the notion of 'Christ consciousness' and the New Age belief that Jesus was merely one of many avatars or wise men as opposed to being the Messiah. Also, I would address the concept of 'channeling' and its well known dangers to the psyche and spirit.

They need to streamline this document. New Age is a pan-spirituality which believes "I'm okay, you're okay", there is no 'sin' but all is learning. There's another point to hit. In this document they tried to cover too much territory. New Age actually encompasses some very old teachings which are not new at all. It is very much a cafeteria type spirituality. If the Vatican wants to take issue with other pieces then that needs to be done in separate documents. The things I mentioned are hallmarks of New Age though.

24 posted on 02/04/2003 7:43:41 PM PST by Scupoli
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