[ksen]

Kevin it is HIS plan not ours..You are assuming His purpose was to bring all men to him as opposed to give all men a knowlege of Him..that is two different things..

Well, actually I am assuming that God gives everyone a fair opportunity to come to Him by faith; not that everyone will come to Him.

Do you agree that having a general knowlege differs from a personal knowlege?

Yes.

Kevin why do you believe God made man?

For His own good pleasure.

[RnMomof7]

Well, actually I am assuming that God gives everyone a fair opportunity to come to Him by faith; not that everyone will come to Him.

Well I guess that is something we will be looking at:>) So I do not want to run ahead with what I consider a natural follow up question *grin*

I will ask who determines what is "fair" God or men?

For His own good pleasure.

Yep..we are made for His glory..so it makes sense to this womans mind He would desire to show himself in nature..

Long before I was a calvinist I heard someone say in a Sunday School class that God made men because he loves us and wanted company....that was pathetic theology