[Zviadist]

Mr. Hand who is something of a crackpot.

Something of a crackpot? The guy is an absolute head-case. In need of serious therapy. I am shocked that the neo-caths take him seriously. But then again, I guess they have to scrape the bottom of the intellectual barrel to justify their bizarre positions...

[Catholicguy]

<> Nah, we cite the Pope and an Ecumenical Council. It is you and your ilk who appeal to the Abbe de Nantes, FR. Gruener (both suspended priests) and Sungenis (one who uses Nazi propaganda pamphlets to attack Jews) and John Vennari and Michael Matt (both signatories to a public statemnt refusing obedience to the Pope)and Lefebvre (an excommunicated Bishop) ect ect.

We don't scrape the bottom of the barrel..no need to. We already have the sweet cream of the infallible Magisterium.

But, the Barrel isn't that bad a metaphor...at least it recognises, unconsciously, we are contained within an organised, solid, unified Body.

You schismatics are running all over the schismatic swamp, uncontained, putrifying, and evaporating<>