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To: ultima ratio
Teaches that Mary pre-existed in Heaven - a heresy

From the Spiritual Writings of Saint Louise de Marillac

SAINT LOUISE DE MARILLAC'S DREAM

Dream of the eve of 8 December

"On the vigil of the Conception of the Blessed Virgin, after having heard the reading from the epistle for that day, I had a dream in which I saw a great darkness arise in the middle of the day. It started off small at first, but it then turned into a very dark night which astonished and terrified the whole world. My own feelings, however, were simply those of submission to divine Justice. Once the darkness had passed, I saw daylight return, and in a certain place high up in the sky I saw a figure like that represented in the scene of the Transfiguration, but the figure seemed to me to be that of a woman. I was seized with great astonishment and experienced such a sense of gratitude towards God that my body suffered as a result and, after the pain had woken me up, I continued to suffer for some while longer. Unlike the ordinary run of my dreams, that image has always remained in my mind, inspiring me to believe that this initial grace bestowed upon the Virgin marked the commencement of the light that the Son of God was to bestow upon the world.

"In my meditation on the subject of the epistle I noticed how Holy Church suggested that the Blessed Virgin possessed Her being from before the Creation of the world. My mind acquiesced in this idea, and it occurred to me that not only had She been in the mind of God from all eternity through His foreknowledge, but that She had been so to a greater degree than any other creature on account of the dignity which God destined Her for as the Mother of His Son. It (Her being) knew that it was willed before the creation of any earthly thing capable of witnessing to the sin of our fathers. God wished to make a specific act of His will in order to create the soul of the Blessed Virgin, and this may also have been an effective act. I submit such thinking entirely to Holy Church, only making use of it the better to honour the Blessed Virgin and as a means of renewing our Society’s general dependence on Her, being Her most wretched daughters who regard Her nonetheless as our most worthy and unique Mother. May Jesus and Mary be loved.

(Écrits spirituels de Louise de Marillac, ed. 1983, p. 730)

22 posted on 01/29/2003 6:12:06 AM PST by Francisco
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To: Francisco
<> Typical duplicity from a schismatic. He claims to submit to the Magisterium but he only agrees to submit if the Magisterium agress with his private judgement.

Look, I already provided you with a magisterial Decision condemning the pre-existence of souls in Heaven. It was a decision taken against Origen. Sheesh....One would think such an "expert" as the Abbe would know. I do...and I am not even a Pope like the Abbe.

The Magisterium does not have to restate it for this suspended priest, you, or any other whack job that rolls around in schismatic swamps.

Roma Locuta est, CAUSA FINITA EST. Rome has ALREADY CONDEMNED THE DOCTRINE THAT SOULS PRE-EXIST IN HEAVEN.<>

24 posted on 01/29/2003 7:07:20 AM PST by Catholicguy (So what if the Lving magisterium has decided? They disagree with the personal opinions of the Abbe)
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