[NYer]

This is too large to post in its entirety, but well worth the read!!!

[NYer]

In the Traditionalist literature, one is warned not to trust the Holy Father, not to even read him, because he was, to one degree or another, "infected with liberalism" which was the curse of the times. Unfortunately, many swallowed this dreadful conclusion, hook, line, and sinker, even if some of us refused to go all the way and declare him a heretic and papal imposter, as many in the same or other chapels did.

It is not easy to read such literature and not be affected in some degree. Especially if one at first does not know an epistle from an apostle. This is the problem with these "independent" chapels.

[Gophack]

Great find! Thank you! Bishop Bruskewtiz really sums it up in his forward.

I really don't like getting into discussions with the SSPX crowd and unfortunately I let myself be dragged into one recently. I don't know enough of the history to be able to defend the Church's position, except to fall back on Jesus Christ that He left His Church with the Holy Spirit, and the Church has been standing for 2,000 years.

I was listening to Catholic radio, an audio of an ewtn program, and one of the commentators, I believe a priest, was talking about what Vatican II was and what it wasn't. it was a fascinating talk, and I realized that all the talk about the "Spirit of Vatican II" was just that -- talk -- no substance. They took the theme of evangelization and decided that they could do whatever they want.

I haven't read Vatican II, but I've been told by people who have read all the documents that none of the abuses seen in some parishes today are condoned or allowed in any way, shape or form by Vatican II.

Anyway, NYer, THANK YOU for your post. I appreciate it!

God bless!

[eastsider]

There are people who suffer from intense headaches, and find themselves utterly incapable of mastering the horrible pain that they frequently endure. In moments of frustration, such people will sometimes say, "I wish I could cut off my head to cure my headache."

LOL!!! Bruskewitz rules.

[God is good]

As for tradition: Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Jesus Christ is the tradition you should follow if you want to see life this side of Heaven.