[Corin Stormhands]

I'll keep reading (thanks ksen), but the nature of "some idea of God" in every human doesn't seem consistent with the concept of "total depravity," and most definitely not with "total inability."

[fortheDeclaration]

I'll keep reading (thanks ksen), but the nature of "some idea of God" in every human doesn't seem consistent with the concept of "total depravity," and most definitely not with "total inability."

You would think so!

But this is Calvinism we are talking about here and truth becomes whatever they say it is, like Pink saying that the rich young ruler had to be saved because Christ love him!

[RnMomof7]

I'll keep reading (thanks ksen), but the nature of "some idea of God" in every human doesn't seem consistent with the concept of "total depravity," and most definitely not with "total inability."

Corin just because you have a sense of something does not mean you have it or an ability to do it..God has planted in every man the knowlege that there is a God..but with out His grace they will never desire it..