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To: Utah Girl
I don't doubt that you had a Bible.I know that Mormons include the Bible among the books they read. They are very different though. The point I was trying to make was that I never really heard about Jesus.I honestly never heard that Jesus died on the cross for me.I never heard that "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son" I knew all about Joseph Smith, and his vision. Had a picture on my wall of it. It was when I was born again that I understood, and wanted to read the Bible.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again John 3.3-7

On another thread I answered Grid about you Mormons distancing yourself from the Journal of Discourses. He said there was a clear process to make new scripture, or doctrine. This was my answer, and a very important thing for you to pay attention too.

What is the clear process by which new doctrine and scripture is excepted into your religion? In the Christian faith there is no new doctrine, or scripture.We are warned many times in the Bible not to except any new, or different doctrine. Not to add to, or take from the Bible.We are being warned not to listen to even an angel from heaven, or Paul himself if he tried to change that Gospel. This is a very serious thing. Scriptures worth repeating:

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel, which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an ANGEL from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.Galatians 1,6-9

For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works@ Cor.11,13-15

No I am not trying to decieve. I honestly believe that what Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young and others taught is very relevant to your religion. How can you except this man made religion without excepting what the the very men that made it have to say about it. CRAZY!! You have to see through your own protest? You want to pick, and choose depending on how socially exceptable their teaching is today.


281 posted on 01/28/2003 10:28:00 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
I'm really sorry you never heard that Jesus Christ died and Atoned for your sins. I was taught that from the time I can remember, in LDS Sunday School, Primary, Young Women, Seminary, and then at BYU in my religion classes. Yes, Joseph Smith is a very important person in our religion. But Jesus Christ is the core of our religion. He is the reason for everything. Thanks for your comments, we'll have to agree to disagree because there is no way I am going to give up my testimony of Jesus Christ and the truth of His restored gospel.
364 posted on 01/29/2003 8:20:14 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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