Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")

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[restornu]

Wrigley

Now you are moving the conversation to the Temple instuctions! I don't discuss what happens there!


51 posted on 01/25/2003 2:28 PM MST by restornu
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I feel you are asking things that are not available to you!

Always remember the Lord is fair and just!

[Wrigley]

I am not talking about temple procedures or what goes on there. And you know that. You just are uncomfortable with what you know the answer to my question is.

[restornu]

That is your assumption!

[Wrigley]

Pretty accurate too.

[Illbay]

When I was a kid growing up Mormon in Alabama--where we have our own unique naming rituals--I wondered where some of the names I heard, those of transplanted Utah Mormons, came from.

One that I remember was a husband whose name was "DeLon," and their first child, a boy, was then named "Deldon."

I have NO IDEA why, but for some reason a guy named "DeLon" should obviously have a son named "Deldon."

Obviously.

[Illbay]

Ignorance personified. That's you.

There is no such thing as a "Harem" in "Mormonism."

Do a little research before you open your friggin' yap.

[Utah Girl]

I come from parents who thankfully gave us boring names. Their only hangup about the names were that we were named what we were going to be called. So I have a sister named Sue, just Sue, not Susan. I worked in a pharmacy and saw firsthand how painful it was to have names that are different. One family named all of their boys after the father (Richard James, Richard David, Richard Mark, etc.) A real pain to submit the insurance forms to be reimbursed for Richard. And our joke is in order to be called to be a General Authority, you must have an initial and a middle name (N Eldon Tanner...)

[Utah Girl]

If a mormon woman's husband does not accept mormonism after he dies, how can he call his wife and continue on the eternal progression path?

Simple, he can't. "Neither is the woman without the man nor the man without the woman in the Lord." We are both to be worthy in order to live eternally with our Heavenly Father in the Celestial Kingdom. We are all promised that if we are faithful to our covenants, keep the commandments, believe in Jesus Christ that all the blessings of the kingdom can be ours. I do not know the specifics of how that will be done, but I do believe that those worthy to live in the Celestial Kingdom will have that opportunity, and that they will have righteous spouses to continue their eternal progression together.

[Utah Girl]

Thanks for posting the article, it was very funny. I know several Goldens, a LaDawn, and a Sherlyn (her parents are Sherman and Linda.)

[Utah Girl]

My name is real boring: Karen.

[Utah Girl]

My cousin and his wife named their children after their respective ancestors. Willie Solomon, Mordecai George, etc. That's a very Utah Mormon thing to do also.

[Grig]

"True or false. A husband must call his wife after they both die."

I see no reason to think that the husband MUST call her, or that if called, she MUST comply.

Couples who do not maintain love and respect for eachother in this life can not expect to have it after death. God will work out the cases where one spouse is not to blame according to his wisdom, His counsel to us is focused on not becoming such an exception, so that is what we focus on.

My mother-in-law knew a lady who was married to a non-member. For ages she tried to help her husband gain a testimony, but he had no interest in participating in ANY religion. He died in a car accident and later someone said to her 'at least now you can go to the temple and be sealed to him' to try and cheer her up. She replied 'no, he had his chance'. A couple years later she met and married a faithfull member in the temple and was never sealed to her first husband.

[Wrigley]

Mulitple sealings.

[Utah Girl]

How about all the men who died in wars over the centuries without being married?

[Wrigley]

Tough luck for him I guess. In the world of the LDS, he would either get the terrestial or tellestial heaven. Which isn't as good at the Celestial heaven.

My original point was a specific case of a non mormon husband who died before his mormon wife. The Mormon wife has the non-mormon husband proxy baptized. The late husband does not accept the teaching of the Lds church in the spirit world. And therefore doesn't call the Mormon wife when she dies. In this case, the hope of the Mormon woman to progress to the ultimate spot, hangs on the husband. If she is not called, she's done.

[drstevej]

Just got back from officiating at a wedding. We didn't check reccommends at the door. In fact we let anyone in who was interested in sharing the couple's special day.

Probably quite a few non-believers present who heard the gospel message. It was a sacred but not secret event!

[restornu]

My original point was a specific case of a non mormon husband who died before his mormon wife. The Mormon wife has the non-mormon husband proxy baptized. The late husband does not accept the teaching of the Lds church in the spirit world. And therefore doesn't call the Mormon wife when she dies. In this case, the hope of the Mormon woman to progress to the ultimate spot, hangs on the husband. If she is not called, she's done.

That is NOT true there still are OPTIONS which you really are not interested! Your only to purpose is to think you might have fodder! So I don't need to discuss temple issues with you! Since you think we are pagans anyway! You mock our prophets and I should share this with you!

BTW there are ways to know if the husband accepts and it is none of your business!

You been have been beating this horse ever since my husband pass away!

I personally choose not to share all of my pearls with anti-LDS!

[restornu]

I also find this so hypocrisy You and your co-heart blast me for motivating you to get married and have a family! Yet it is ok for you to get personal! You are so lacking in doing good! at least I had good intentions!

[Grig]

"Tough luck for him I guess. In the world of the LDS, he would either get the terrestial or tellestial heaven. Which isn't as good at the Celestial heaven. "

http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/137

When a person has REJECTED and refused something, and doesn't repent of it all their life, they have to live with the eternal consequences of it. If circumstances prevented them from some required ordinance durring life, they still will have the chance to recieve those through temple work.

People who die young, or have some other circumstance preventing them in life are not automaticly cut off, only those who have set their heart against it and WON'T or wouldn't even if they could are.

"In this case, the hope of the Mormon woman to progress to the ultimate spot, hangs on the husband. If she is not called, she's done."

Not so. A person's exhaltation can not be stopped by anyone but themselves.

President Snow: "There is no Latter-day Saint who dies after having lived a faithful life who will lose anything because of having failed to do certain things when opportunities were not furnished him or her. In other words, if a young man or a young woman has no opportunity of getting married, and they live faithful lives up to the time of their death, they will have all the blessings, exaltation, and glory that any man or woman will have who had this opportunity and improved it. That is sure and positive"

President Benson said: "I assure you that if you have to wait even until the next life to be blessed with a choice companion, God will surely compensate you" http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1988.htm/ensign%20november%201988.htm/to%20the%20single%20adult%20sisters%20of%20the%20church.htm

A valid question would be, how did this situation come about? If the LDS woman was LDS before the wedding and made the choice to marry a nonmember, then SHE knowingly put her exhaltation at risk and is not blameless. I can not find any official statement that indicates that this is a mistake that cuts the person off from full exhaltation no matter what. I assume she can repent of it (and when forgiven, God would treat her situation the same way as for a single sister), but she will still have to live with all the conflicts that arrise from having an interfaith marriage.

If she converted after marriage and he did not, or if he fall away from the church, then she is not to blame and will not be made to suffer for it. She will be no more cut off from full exhaltation than the single sisters President Benson was talking to.

The same holds true for men, the actions of their wife can not prevent them from reaching full exhaltation, only their own choices.

[drstevej]

If I die believing in Jesus Christ as my Savior and believing that Joseph Smith is a false prophet and that Mormonism is heretical where do I wind up in your theological understanding?