Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")

The Utah Baby Namer ^ | Wes and Cari Clark

[Elsie]

BTW why you foolish folks stand around mocking this knowledge.

Am I mocking when I cut & paste, FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES, and merely high-light in RED the things you do NOT want to talk about?

[Elsie]

Do the Mormons help those who are not Mormons?

Only if they are DEAD, Jim!

[Elsie]

No part at all, that quote is part of the comments made ABOUT the declaration, not the declaration itself. He is trying to get the Saints to understand why God revealed the declaration rather than called for open civil disobedience. What part of "I wrote what the Lord told me to write" don't you get?

 

This part!-->

 

The Lord has told me to ask the Latter-day Saints a question, and He also told me that if they would listen to what I said to them and answer the question put to them, by the Spirit and power of God, they would all answer alike, and they would all believe alike with regard to this matter.

The question is this: Which is the wisest course for the Latter-day Saints to pursue--to continue to attempt to practice plural marriage, with the laws of the nation against it and the opposition of sixty millions of people, and at the cost of the confiscation and loss of all the Temples, and the stopping of all the ordinances therein, both for the living and the dead, and the imprisonment of the First Presidency and Twelve and the heads of families in the Church, and the confiscation of personal property of the people (all of which of themselves would stop the practice); or, after doing and suffering what we have through our adherence to this principle to cease the practice and submit to the law, and through doing so leave the Prophets, Apostles and fathers at home, so that they can instruct the people and attend to the duties of the Church, and also leave the Temples in the hands of the Saints, so that they can attend to the ordinances of the Gospel, both for the living and the dead?

The Lord showed me by vision and revelation exactly what would take place if we did not stop this practice. If we had not stopped it, you would have had no use for . . . any of the men in this temple at Logan; for all ordinances would be stopped throughout the land of Zion. Confusion would reign throughout Israel, and many men would be made prisoners. This trouble would have come upon the whole Church, and we should have been compelled to stop the practice. Now, the question is, whether it should be stopped in this manner, or in the way the Lord has manifested to us, and leave our Prophets and Apostles and fathers free men, and the temples in the hands of the people, so that the dead may be redeemed. A large number has already been delivered from the prison house in the spirit world by this people, and shall the work go on or stop? This is the question I lay before the Latter-day Saints. You have to judge for yourselves. I want you to answer it for yourselves. I shall not answer it; but I say to you that that is exactly the condition we as a people would have been in had we not taken the course we have.

 

As ANYONE can see, this is ALL ONE BIG CHUNK OF TEXT; starting with GOD ASKING and ending with MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.  It that to difficult to understand??

 

To my knowledge, the mind making up line HAS NOT BEEN OVERRULED IN ANY of the LDS' organizational writings.  Each member STILL has to make up their mind, and that is what the renegade Mormon's have done.

"I shall not answer it"; What kind of a 'leader' is this anyway?!

[HarryDunne]

JimRob had a thread about a year ago called "Re: A word of caution regarding the bashing of Mormons, Catholics, Jews, Calvinists, Baptists.....". A number of people were either banned or had their wrists slapped. I think grig, neocon and RnMomof7 were around at the time. That would be the most definitive reference, if we could find it.

[restornu]

thank you for clairifying that, I being in NYC only know from the baby kits, or those sanity kits we made assembled for relief. I know the site you mention is in post 1, but I have not search it yet!

[JesseShurun]

Actually Mormons will help you if they know you. I had some close Mormon friends for a number of years, and they told me, if I was anywhere in the world and needed help, to call up the local Mormon bishop and mention their names. They will come to you and bring you money, food whatever it is you need. They even do it on occasion for some they don't know, if for instance the police or another church calls. I think they don't publicize it though as too many people take advantage of them.

[Elsie]

To prepare for tonight's State of the Union Message from our President,

go here........

 

http://www.talltexian.com/AmericaForever/id28.htm

[Illbay]

Absolutely.

But on the other hand, please count the number of names involved in the "Mormon bashing."

You'll find it's always the same dozen people or so.

That those dozen have nothing better to do than spend a good part of their waking hours, generating hundreds, even over a thousand replies on a single thread speaks volumes.

Consider the source. Then dismiss it.

[Illbay]

N.B. If drstevej, BibChr, RnMomof7, Wrigley, Elsie, and Philip Marlowe dropped dead, there'd BE no more "Mormon-bashing" on FR.

[Wrigley]

That doesn't surprise me.

Taking the comments at face value here, it sounded just the opposite.

[Wrigley]

Info ping.

N.B. If drstevej, BibChr, RnMomof7, Wrigley, Elsie, and Philip Marlowe dropped dead, there'd BE no more "Mormon-bashing" on FR.

Well, isn't this just too cool.

[Wrigley]

Meant to ping you too.

[HarryDunne]

Consider the source. Then dismiss it.

Note to self: Learn it, know it, live it.

[HarryDunne]

Yeah, I'm in the process of going through old threads I have bookmarked and I am repeatedly seeing the usual suspects. Many have been banned, though.

[BibChr]

My life has taken on greater significance. Seriously. This reminds me of one of my favorite little passages:

When Ahab saw Elijah, Ahab said to him, "Is this you, you troubler of Israel?"

He said, "I have not troubled Israel, but you and your father's house have, because you have forsaken the commandments of the LORD and you have followed the Baals!"

Dan

[Wrigley]

Very relevant.

[fishtank]

Actually, the list of groups to critique is rather large. Last week, Hank Hannegraaf was quoting from the TBN people - lots of them seem to be hip deep in the "cult of Adam" teachings.

[Elsie]

If drstevej, BibChr, RnMomof7, Wrigley, Elsie, and Philip Marlowe dropped dead, there'd BE no more "Mormon-bashing" on FR.

HMmmm.. Why did THIS come to mind........

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KJV 1 Kings 19:14-18
14. And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
15. And the Lord said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria:
16. And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.
17. And it shall come to pass, that him that escapeth the sword of Hazael shall Jehu slay: and him that escapeth from the sword of Jehu shall Elisha slay.
18. Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.

[drstevej]

***N.B. If drstevej, BibChr, RnMomof7, Wrigley, Elsie, and Philip Marlowe dropped dead,...***

Well, isn't that special? And I'm first on the list. I'm blushing.

***...there'd BE no more "Mormon-bashing" on FR. ***

As long as Mormons pretend Mormonism is Christianity, there will be and should be a response. BTW, if there is any bashing around here it is MormonISM-bashing not Mormon-bashing... significant difference.

[Elsie]

WOW!!

Great minds.......

I replied before I scrolled down to see yours!!