[ksen]

Is John Calvin holding his own?

I don't see anything objectionable in Book 1, Chapter 1. I was hoping more non-Calvinists would get involved, read what Calvin actually wrote, and then we could discuss Calvin's actual words.......in context even.

[xzins]

I've already decided he isn't a heretic.

I think he and arminius were trying to untangle an untangleable knot.

But I will read it. It won't be soon. Keep pinging me.

[fortheDeclaration]

don't see anything objectionable in Book 1, Chapter 1. I was hoping more non-Calvinists would get involved, read what Calvin actually wrote, and then we could discuss Calvin's actual words.......in context even.

Most of what Calvin wrote in his Institutes is not objectionable.

It is when you get to Book 3 chapter 21 that you get to the heart of his system, Sovereign Election 'Of the Eternal Election,by Which God has Predestinated Some to Salvation, and Others to Destruction' to see the real heresies in Calvinism.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~rogh/

This site has a very good article on the two systems titled 'Calvin and Arminius', you might want to check it out.