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The Institutes Book 1, Chapter 1
The Institutes of the Christian Religion ^ | 1500's | John Calvin

Posted on 01/23/2003 5:27:50 AM PST by ksen

Institutes of the Christian Religion

Book I: The Knowledge of God the Creator


Chapter 1: THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND OF OURSELVES MUTUALLY CONNECTED. - NATURE OF THIS CONNECTION.

Section 1: Without knowledge of self there is no knowledge of God

Our wisdom, in so far as it ought to be deemed true and solid Wisdom, consists almost entirely of two parts: the knowledge of God and of ourselves. But as these are connected together by many ties, it is not easy to determine which of the two precedes and gives birth to the other. For, in the first place, no man can survey himself without forthwith turning his thoughts towards the God in whom he lives and moves; because it is perfectly obvious, that the endowments which we possess cannot possibly be from ourselves; nay, that our very being is nothing else than subsistence in God alone. In the second place, those blessings which unceasingly distil to us from heaven, are like streams conducting us to the fountain. Here, again, the infinitude of good which resides in God becomes more apparent from our poverty. In particular, the miserable ruin into which the revolt of the first man has plunged us, compels us to turn our eyes upwards; not only that while hungry and famishing we may thence ask what we want, but being aroused by fear may learn humility. For as there exists in man something like a world of misery, and ever since we were stript of the divine attire our naked shame discloses an immense series of disgraceful properties every man, being stung by the consciousness of his own unhappiness, in this way necessarily obtains at least some knowledge of God. Thus, our feeling of ignorance, vanity, want, weakness, in short, depravity and corruption, reminds us, (see Calvin on John 4: 10,) that in the Lord, and none but He, dwell the true light of wisdom, solid virtue, exuberant goodness. We are accordingly urged by our own evil things to consider the good things of God; and, indeed, we cannot aspire to Him in earnest until we have begun to be displeased with ourselves. For what man is not disposed to rest in himself? Who, in fact, does not thus rest, so long as he is unknown to himself; that is, so long as he is contented with his own endowments, and unconscious or unmindful of his misery? Every person, therefore, on coming to the knowledge of himself, is not only urged to seek God, but is also led as by the hand to find him.

2.Without knowledge of God there is no knowledge of self

On the other hand, it is evident that man never attains to a true self-knowledge until he have previously contemplated the face of God, and come down after such contemplation to look into himself. For (such is our innate pride) we always seem to ourselves just, and upright, and wise, and holy, until we are convinced, by clear evidence, of our injustice, vileness, folly, and impurity. Convinced, however, we are not, if we look to ourselves only, and not to the Lord also - He being the only standard by the application of which this conviction can be produced. For, since we are all naturally prone to hypocrisy, any empty semblance of righteousness is quite enough to satisfy us instead of righteousness itself. And since nothing appears within us or around us that is not tainted with very great impurity, so long as we keep our mind within the confines of human pollution, anything which is in some small degree less defiled delights us as if it were most pure just as an eye, to which nothing but black had been previously presented, deems an object of a whitish, or even of a brownish hue, to be perfectly white. Nay, the bodily sense may furnish a still stronger illustration of the extent to which we are deluded in estimating the powers of the mind. If, at mid-day, we either look down to the ground, or on the surrounding objects which lie open to our view, we think ourselves endued with a very strong and piercing eyesight; but when we look up to the sun, and gaze at it unveiled, the sight which did excellently well for the earth is instantly so dazzled and confounded by the refulgence, as to oblige us to confess that our acuteness in discerning terrestrial objects is mere dimness when applied to the sun. Thus too, it happens in estimating our spiritual qualities. So long as we do not look beyond the earth, we are quite pleased with our own righteousness, wisdom, and virtue; we address ourselves in the most flattering terms, and seem only less than demigods. But should we once begin to raise our thoughts to God, and reflect what kind of Being he is, and how absolute the perfection of that righteousness, and wisdom, and virtue, to which, as a standard, we are bound to be conformed, what formerly delighted us by its false show of righteousness will become polluted with the greatest iniquity; what strangely imposed upon us under the name of wisdom will disgust by its extreme folly; and what presented the appearance of virtuous energy will be condemned as the most miserable impotence. So far are those qualities in us, which seem most perfect, from corresponding to the divine purity.

3.Man before God's majesty

Hence that dread and amazement with which as Scripture uniformly relates, holy men were struck and overwhelmed whenever they beheld the presence of God. When we see those who previously stood firm and secure so quaking with terror, that the fear of death takes hold of them, nay, they are, in a manner, swallowed up and annihilated, the inference to be drawn is that men are never duly touched and impressed with a conviction of their insignificance, until they have contrasted themselves with the majesty of God. Frequent examples of this consternation occur both in the Book of Judges and the Prophetical Writings; so much so, that it was a common expression among the people of God, "We shall die, for we have seen the Lord." Hence the Book of Job, also, in humbling men under a conviction of their folly, feebleness, and pollution, always derives its chief argument from descriptions of the Divine wisdom, virtue, and purity. Nor without cause: for we see Abraham the readier to acknowledge himself but dust and ashes the nearer he approaches to behold the glory of the Lord, and Elijah unable to wait with unveiled face for His approach; so dreadful is the sight. And what can man do, man who is but rottenness and a worm, when even the Cherubim themselves must veil their faces in very terror? To this, undoubtedly, the Prophet Isaiah refers, when he says, (Isaiah 24: 23,) "The moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of Hosts shall reign;" i. e., when he shall exhibit his refulgence, and give a nearer view of it, the brightest objects will, in comparison, be covered with darkness.

But though the knowledge of God and the knowledge of ourselves are bound together by a mutual tie, due arrangement requires that we treat of the former in the first place, and then descend to the latter.


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To: editor-surveyor; Jean Chauvin; RnMomof7
When I Cor 2:14 talks about "the things of the Spirit of God" isn't it referring back to verse 10 which is talking about the "deep things of God"?

If so, does the Gospel qualify as "deep things", or IOW is the Gospel milk or meat? I believe the Gospel would qualify as milk and the other doctrines(i.e. the Church, the Trinity) are meat and are not understood until a man is born again and given the mind of Christ.

I guess one of my main objections is that I've had Calvinists tell me that you must be regenerated before you can be born again, but being born again IS being regenerated. So in effect they are saying you must be born again before you can be born again.
81 posted on 01/24/2003 9:10:41 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Jean Chauvin
Calvin was speaking to those in Geneva who were the most intense, rigorous reformers in Europe.

What? Are you sure? I thought The Institutes were written to the King of France. Also I am under the impression that Calvin wrote them only a couple of years after his leaving the RCC.

What years was Calvin in Geneva?

82 posted on 01/24/2003 9:13:41 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: ksen
but being born again IS being regenerated

Actually being regenerated is being Born again:>) by defination. Most calvinists see this as an instantanous event with both comming together..

doc uses the idea of a bullet going through a board..which came first the bullet or the hole it passes through.

How do you define regeneration? Here is the greek

paliggenesia {pal-ing-ghen-es-ee'-ah} TDNT Reference Root Word

TDNT - 1:686,117 from 3825 and 1078

1) new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration
a) hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God, a radical change of mind for the better. The word often used to denote the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as a renewal or restoration of life after death
b) the renovation of the earth after the deluge

c) the renewal of the world to take place after its destruction by fire, as the Stoics taught

d) the signal and glorious change of all things (in heaven and earth) for the better, that restoration of the primal and perfect condition of things which existed before the fall of our first parents, which the Jews looked for in connection with the advent of the Messiah, and which Christians expected in connection with the visible return of Jesus from heaven.

The question asked by Calvinists is can a man that is dead reach for the pill or life preserver that will save him? Or does someone need to give him CPR first?

83 posted on 01/24/2003 9:20:15 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: ksen
"When I Cor 2:14 talks about "the things of the Spirit of God" isn't it referring back to verse 10 which is talking about the "deep things of God"?"

Don't stop at vs 10. Read on into vs 11!

"11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."

The "things of God" knoweth "no man". Not JUST the "deep things". All the things of God "knoweth no man". This passage is not limiting the understanding through the Spirit to just "deep things".

Go back and read 1 Cor 1:

1 Corinthians 1
18 For the PREACHING OF THE CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

This is telling us point blank that the message of the Cross (the gospel) is foolishness to all who are not called. They do not understand it.

"I guess one of my main objections is that I've had Calvinists tell me that you must be regenerated before you can be born again, but being born again IS being regenerated. So in effect they are saying you must be born again before you can be born again. "

I've actually never heard that one before. I would say that one must be regenerated before one can believe. I would agree with you that regeneration IS being "born again".

Question: Since it was Jesus who used the analogy of birth ("born again"), I might ask you if you had a choice to be born the first time?

Jean

84 posted on 01/24/2003 9:31:01 AM PST by Jean Chauvin
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To: Jean Chauvin; ksen
I've actually never heard that one before. I would say that one must be regenerated before one can believe. I would agree with you that regeneration IS being "born again".

I believe it is a misuse of the word by those that are Arminian..they have assumed it was the same thing..actually ~I think~ they believe you must believe before you can be born again

Jhn 3:3   Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

This is some times misread to mean heaven..but that is not what Jesus said

Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Jesus spoke often of the inability of some to hear his message...here we have Him telling us why

85 posted on 01/24/2003 9:57:26 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin; ksen; xzins
actually ~I think~ they believe you must believe before you can be born again

I think more accurately, we believe that when you believe, you are born again.

xzins? ksen? do I mispeak?

86 posted on 01/24/2003 10:04:11 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Would the doc's description of the bullet going through a board seem correct to you? That the regeneration and belief happen in a way that they appear to be together?
87 posted on 01/24/2003 10:08:31 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; ksen
I thought, as well, that this was a 'transposed' error:

Arminians define "born again" as making the "decision" to believe.

Calvinists tell us one must be regenerated in order to believe.

Therefore, it could be mistakenly said, assuming the Arminian definition of "born again", "Calvinsts tell us that we need to be regenerated before we can be "born again".

I have never heard a Calvinist say this, mind you, but I can understand how it could be mistakenly understood this way.

Jean
88 posted on 01/24/2003 10:09:59 AM PST by Jean Chauvin (There are no coincidences!)
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To: RnMomof7
I do not see the Calvinists being able to explain it without one preceding the other.
89 posted on 01/24/2003 10:10:22 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: Corin Stormhands; ksen; Jean Chauvin
Well I have never read the institutes and I ~think~ we are getting ahead in this discussion..which in this chapter is God

Lets give it some time and see what Calvin really taught on it

Kevin why don't you post the next chapter with a link to this one ?

90 posted on 01/24/2003 10:13:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: ksen; RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin; jude24; rwfromkansas; OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins
Calvin was born and raised in France, but fled to Basel after his religious writings nearly got him killed.

In Basel he wrote "Institutes of the Christian Religion," (dedicated to the King of France) which was a brilliant work organizing and articulating the basic beliefs of the Reformers. Calvin continued to fine-tune the Institutes throughout his life in five subsequent editions.

Calvin lived the last 24 years of his life in Geneva where he raised a family, lived happily and prodigiously produced concepts that found their way into our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I found a great site on the web this morning that simply details Calvin's life and works. I encourage all to glance at it.

http://www.thirdmill.org/files/english/html/ch/CH.Arnold.RMT.7.HTML

Ken, the above link offers a quote from Calvin. It reminded me of your story from your earlier post.

"By a sudden conversion, God subdued and reduced to docility my soul...Like a flash of light, I realized in what an abyss of errors, in what chaos I was."
91 posted on 01/24/2003 10:55:57 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"By a sudden conversion, God subdued and reduced to docility my soul...Like a flash of light, I realized in what an abyss of errors, in what chaos I was."

That is the story of the irrestible grace of God..ask Paul:>)

92 posted on 01/24/2003 11:02:34 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Link to chapter 2.
93 posted on 01/24/2003 11:09:49 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: ksen
Ken

Kevin.

94 posted on 01/24/2003 11:42:49 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Corin Stormhands; RnMomof7; ksen
believing, being born again (regenerated), being justified, being sanctified, are all simultaneous.

As DrJ would say, there is only a logical order that can be imposed upon them. I agree with that.

We cannot enter the KOG until we are born again. Unless we're in it, we cannot see it.

No matter which side we're on, we must believe that the Lord takes the initial step.

Prevenient grace (whether as taught by us or them) is bestowed prior to the moment of regeneration.

We think some can refuse it; they don't.
95 posted on 01/24/2003 11:46:42 AM PST by xzins (things that make you go.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thanks for the link Dr. E. ;^)
96 posted on 01/24/2003 12:01:06 PM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: xzins
Accurate assessment....

Could I sing a round of
Irreplaceable   You " as"Irresistable you"??:>)

nawwwwwww it would be off key

link on Irresistable Grace

http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/calvinism/full.asp?ID=610
97 posted on 01/24/2003 12:32:34 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: ksen
Does Total Depravity = Total Inability?

Yes. Because Man's mind has been affected by sin: Rom 3:11a, 1 Cor 2:14, Rom 8:7&8

His emotions have been affected by sin John 3:19.

Man's will does not operate outside of or independently from his mind and emotions but his will responds to what he desires and how he reasons which have both been ruined by sin
Man is spiritually dead Eph 2:1,5
Jesus taught man's inability John 6:44, 65.

Man cannot see or perceive spiritual things John 3:3
Romans 8:7 cannot submit to God or his law
1Cor 2:14 Cannot know spiritual truth
John 15:5 Cannot do spiritual good.

So, where is the ability here. There is no ability until it is given. It is God given ability.

98 posted on 01/25/2003 11:09:06 AM PST by gal220
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To: gal220; the_doc
Hey gal welcome to FR and the religious threads..

good post

99 posted on 01/25/2003 11:17:13 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: editor-surveyor
Let the words of Jesus land on you. Jesus makes a powerful statement in John 10 when he is talking about being the door of the sheep. There was much division about what he was saying. Look at John 10:25-27.

Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. vs 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. vs 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

What is Jesus telling those that do not believe?
100 posted on 01/25/2003 11:20:39 AM PST by gal220
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