before you jump on this point, Oh debate champion, let me extend and revise by saying that we also cannot disprove that Jesus spoke the word tetelestai either.
To:the_doc.
Well lad, you're nae gettin away tha easy!
Actually, these events happened before man became a sinner, so those considerations can fall by the wayside in your thinking.
(The fact that the things you folks are discussing happened before men were constituted as sinners doesn't change that, as far as I can tell.)