[RnMomof7]

I am a huge MacArthur fan. I just got his study bible

I think that the church has redefined repentance to an acknowlegement or a verbal assent .

I listen to a national religious program sometimes..they take calls..The Host will say .."would you like to ask Jesus into your life" (as an answer to a "problem)

The caller will say "yes"

Then she leads the caller in a prayer that goes like this

Father I know I have made some poor choices (or mistakes) and I ask your forgivness for them.Jesus I ask you into my heart now I give you my life"

The the host says "there you are now a member of Gods family"

Ann if we do not see how Holy God is and How sinful we are we can never repent..It is a "cheap" salvation they preach ...because what value has something that has no cost? If we read the OT we see what happens when man is in the presence of God..they cry out and weep and fall on their face..

I think we judge ourselves by the actions of other men and in comparison to them we do not look too bad (*grin* ) But when we look to the holy perfection of God THAT is another thing.

[KennyV]

I've been to John MacArthur's church (Grace Community Church). He sure drills deap down into Scripture during his teaching.

It's a little far to attend regularily, but a co-worker is a member there and we have lot's of discussions during lunchtime walks around the Rose bowl (Pasadena).

[Cleburne]

Ah, we're not too bad- and sin is such a confrontational word! You'll scare people off preaching nasty stuff like that! If we start going off on all this holiness stuff, who knows where it might lead. You have to understand all those exortations to repentance and holiness in the New Testament as a product of the times- they're not really applicable now-a-days. Paul and all those guys didn't have cool techniques to bring in the numbers like we have now, so he had to get people's attention some how. I doubt having people act all good and holy was really all that effective anyway.

[anncoulteriscool]

****I am a huge MacArthur fan. I just got his study bible*****

Is that a good study Bible....I've thought of buying that!