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To: Remedy
<>I find your Christian-baiting despicable.

There is not a single Synagogue, Church, Mosque, existing, or that ever existed that PRECLUDES the existence of those who desire to act as their Will dictates.

Ping God and ask Him why He didn't PRECLUDE Hitler.... or Stalin (he killed more'n Hitler).....or Mao (He killed more'n Hitler and Stalin).

I challenge you to find a SINGLE Magisterial Document, Catechism, Encyclical, Ecumenical Council Document that supports ONE of your bigoted charges.

I have already said some INDIVIDUAL Christians acted atrociously. Did some Jews also act atrociously in re Hitler?<>

32 posted on 01/14/2003 12:21:20 PM PST by Catholicguy (I am finished with this b.s. Run your guilt-game all you desire. It is a sure way to attract support)
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To: Catholicguy
Oh, calm down.

I find your Christian-baiting despicable.

I'm not baiting or debating you.

PRECLUDES the existence takeover, via elections, of democratic societies and governments.

What do Priests for Life Index and American Life League - Life Issues advocate? Same thing Anti Abortion and Pro Life group 'Jews For Life' advocates, which is stopping the present holocaust Death as Deliverance: Euthanatic Thinking in Germany ca. 1890-1933 Writing in 1989, the late Cardinal John O'Connor of New York City, an ardent pro-life advocate, predicted that euthanasia would "dwarf the abortion phenomenon in magnitude, in numbers, in horror." and attempting to PRECLUDE it's logical progression - euthanasia.

Abortion as "Shedding Innocent Blood" & Lessons Toward Repentance ... claims ALL Protestants, Catholics and Jews are not converted/committed to the pro-life cause. World quotes R.C. Sproul of Ligonier Ministries: "One of the greatest travesties of the church is its silence on abortion, particularly the evangelical church."

A collection of quotes from the Founding FathersThe Importance of Morality and Religion in Government indicates that Christians should practice what is preached and in so doing be the Salt and Light (Matthew 5:13-16) of society.

Imagine the state of this nation 5 years from now, if you exiled/expelled all the social conservative Catholics, Protestants and Orthodox Jews today.


 Sept. 2, 2000 ,Volume 15, Number 34 WORLD ON THE WEB, Marvin Olasky

Perhaps the most observant current viewer of Christophobia is not a Christian but an Orthodox Jewish rabbi. Daniel Lapin wrote in his book, America's Real War, "The educational bureaucracy expects the state to accommodate every possible bizarre cultural mutation and lifestyle, but finds prayer at graduation an intolerable and fatal compromise of state neutrality toward religion." Why else would such illogic reign if fear were not involved?

Some Jewish leaders would point to the Holocaust to say that their fear has an objective basis, yet the faith that animated Hitler was not Christianity but a racist version of Social Darwinism's emphasis on survival of the fittest. And the reason Hitler could put his faith into practice is because of a powerful government apparatus; although the left hates to admit it, National Socialism was one type of socialism.

That's why Rabbi Lapin's fearless statement makes sense: "Those of us who venerate freedom, be we Jewish or Christian, be we religious or secularized, have no option but to pray for the health of Christianity in America. No other group possesses both the faith and the numbers sufficient to hold back the ever-encroaching, sometimes sinister, power of the state."

 

33 posted on 01/14/2003 5:02:23 PM PST by Remedy
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