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To: RnMomof7
"...the modern Evangelical position shares one major flaw with both the Roman Catholic and the Eastern Orthodox positions. Each results in autonomy. Each results in final authority being placed somewhere other than God and His Word. Unlike the Roman Catholic position and the Eastern Orthodox position, however, which invariably result in the autonomy of the Church, the modern Evangelical position inevitably results in the autonomy of the individual believer."

I accept the early creeds and teachings only in so far as they reflect the bible...I consider myself Evangelical and Calvinist ..I do not see a contradiction in that)

"I" ... "I" ... "I"! The classic Protestant 'papacy of one"! When one is a so-called Bible Christian, it's all about what I accept, what I consider to be truth, what contradictions I recognize, not about shutting up and letting someone else teach me what's right and wrong! As a Papacy of One, each Protestant can infallibly decide for him/herself what is Truth and what isn't...

...just like Adam and Eve. "...And you will be like God, knowing good and evil." [Gen 3:5 RSV]

The bible is the standard to wich all teachings must be held..it is the measuring rod.

Where is that teaching found in the Bible?

And to what measuring rod was the canon of Scripture itself held?

I'm so glad I'm not a "bibChr". The Bible can't save me; only Christ can. Christianity based upon the Bible instead of upon the living Christ would be thin gruel indeed. Being a highly fallible "ChrChr" is good enough for me; I'll leave it to Christ's Most Precious Body (the Church he founded here on Earth) to do the interpreting, and His Most Precious Blood to do the saving.

The author of this article is wrong about some things, but when he says that sola leads inevitably to every man becoming his own Pope, he's right on the money. I'm not smart (or holy) enough to be my own Pope.

20 posted on 01/06/2003 3:53:06 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
"Unlike the Roman Catholic position and the Eastern Orthodox position, however, which invariably result in the autonomy of the Church, the modern Evangelical position inevitably results in the autonomy of the individual believer."

Then why did Jesus hand out keys in the first place?
25 posted on 01/06/2003 4:26:58 PM PST by Domestic Church
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To: B-Chan
"The Bible can't save me"

The Bible is the Word and it can certainly save but it is important to recognize that Christ would have handed out keys to all the Apostles if he meant that and he would have given all his friends copies but he chose a key holder for the Body of Christ.

Another aspect that never seems to surface in discussions of this sort is the Mystical...this is where one needs a God given key.
37 posted on 01/06/2003 5:03:16 PM PST by Domestic Church
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To: B-Chan; Jael; Dr. Eckleburg
"I" ... "I" ... "I"! The classic Protestant 'papacy of one"!

Yea you are right I could say the koran kissing pope said this or the anti semiti pope said that and becaause they are infallible I will stop seeking the Holy Spirit and be a mindless puppet of rome

You may go pray to your saints now

52 posted on 01/06/2003 7:30:12 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: B-Chan
The author of this article is wrong about some things, but when he says that sola leads inevitably to every man becoming his own Pope, he's right on the money. I'm not smart (or holy) enough to be my own Pope.

Good. Cuz popes arent scriptural.

302 posted on 01/13/2003 10:18:50 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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