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To: lockeliberty
It's 10 degrees out there i think I'll wait a while. :)

If only yer logic were as cold as the temperature in yer necka d'woods

You start from a standard based upon the oral traditions of the 16th Century Heresiarchs. Now, I don't hold you personaly responsible for having been taught those views, but, don't expect this Cradle Catholic to adopt the same categories of thought the Oral traditons represent as they were but various recapitulations of old heresies.

I will stick with Apostolic Tradition and Apostolic Succession - just like the AnteNicene Catholic Church Fathers did.

If'n ya desire I decamp from the Pope and pitch my tent in the heretical fields, prove to me, citing either the New Testament or the AnteNicene Catholic Church Fathers, that Jesus would establish a Church, say to folks "He who hears you (Catholic Church) hears me" and describes that nascent Catholic Churh as "The Pillar and Ground of Truth," and then that that Chruch, despite having Jesus send the Holy Spirit upon it to teach it al truth, that it would nevertheless fail, that it would teach error, and that it would lead others into serious and fractious heresies and then mebbe we can talk:)<>

125 posted on 01/07/2003 11:29:14 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
If'n ya desire I decamp from the Pope and pitch my tent in the heretical fields, prove to me, citing either the New Testament or the AnteNicene Catholic Church Fathers, that Jesus would establish a Church, say to folks "He who hears you (Catholic Church) hears me" and describes that nascent Catholic Churh as "The Pillar and Ground of Truth," and then that that Chruch, despite having Jesus send the Holy Spirit upon it to teach it al truth, that it would nevertheless fail, that it would teach error, and that it would lead others into serious and fractious heresies and then mebbe we can talk:)<>
125 posted on 01/07/2003 12:29 PM MST by Catholicguy

"1 And to the angel of the church in Sardis write: These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars: I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and thou art dead. 2 Be thou watchful, and establish the things that remain, which were ready to die: for I have found no works of thine perfected before my God. 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and didst hear; and keep [it], and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4 But thou hast a few names in Sardis that did not defile their garments: and they shall walk with me in white; for they are worthy. 5 He that overcometh shall thus be arrayed in white garments; and I will in no wise blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches. "

canz we talk?

133 posted on 01/07/2003 11:56:02 AM PST by lockeliberty
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