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He has met us but prefers to believe the reasons he stated above. And for the record, I did study LDS and other source material when I came to the realization that little if anything taught to me by the LDS had any basis in fact. But it is easier to believe exMormons are: lazy, wanting to "sin" (coffee is my big bad sin; tea too!); offended by someone (I was offended by Joseph Smith and especially Brigham Young) and "lack of testimony" which is a charming subjective category when the other three are not provable. :Sigh: This is one way to push the pesky questions off to one side I guess.

Just like you to know R7 and I have knock one another around here on the Theard, but we are friends. so just because you feel you left the LDS, does not mean the LDS dislike you! It just wasn't for you!

I certainly cannot judge you, only the Lord knows our hearts and minds, our intentions! I am very limited in my view of you!

Steve, Wrigley and Elsie we really roll around in the mud at times, but we do wish each other good!

This is a touchy subject! What did most of our parents always warn us about don't discuss politics or religion!

I guess we more dense than others:)

Your statement, "little if anything taught to me by the LDS had any basis in fact" is precisely why I don't find you credible. I've spent so much time studying the Scriptures, Mormon doctrine, history, the early Christian Church, I've even read the entire ANF and the N&PNF; to know just how vacuous such claims are.

After all, if I were to challenge you to put up or shut up - you'd gleefully cite numerous doctrinal objections UNTIL I thrash you in my response - and then you'll just pretend my answers never happened and continue on your merry way in demonizing the LDS Church. I remember your earlier claim last year that we weren't Christian - after I provided evidence indisputably proving we are, you resorted to bigoted remarks without evidence backing up your claim. For you, a former Mormon, to claim Mormonism isn't Christian is appallingly deceitful. Didn't you listen to the baptism prayer? Didn't you ever listen to the words of the Sacrament prayer? Didn't you ever sing the hymns or read the Book of Mormon, a book that says right in the very first page, that it is written for "the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the eternal God"?

Now the truth comes out. You couldn't live the commandments of the LDS Church. Instead of striving to live up to the requirements, you chose coffee over the Bride of Christ. Hey, it's your choice. I and millions of other members seem to survive just fine without coffee or tea. Does this offend you, that we can live without those addictive harmful substances and you couldn't thus explaining why you turned away from the Church and now oppose and demonize it whenever you can?

I'm not someone you can try to intimidate with doctrinal arguments - I'm much too knowledgeable and experienced in Mormon theology. After all, I have written what many consider as the most comprehensive work ever done on LDS theology, namely, the book, MORMONISM. The Faith of the Twenty-first Century. Vol 1 [622-page hardcover] see an on-line copy at http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/bicycleroad/21/id22.htm if you don't believe me.

Now be a good gal and put up or shut up. I won't berate you for apostatizing from the True Church if you drop the bigoted hostility against Mormonism. Deal?