[sinkspur]

It's the "dumbing down" of the language and the art and the meaning, that's my problem. It's gotten worse in the last 25 years and sinking further.

Well, most Catholics would disagree with you.

In addition, the "language" is what it is. It's always more exotic and mysterious to pray and sing in a language no one understands. But, at the end of the day, walking out of Mass totally non-plussed, but feeling good, is not "meaning". It's "feeling good," which is mediocrity in the extreme.

As I said, if you prefer the Latin liturgy, you should seek it out.

Griping that the NO is not to your liking when you have a choice is like the neurotic who's mad because 2+2 doesn't equal 5.

[Desdemona]

Well, most Catholics would disagree with you.

Most Catholics may disagree, but that doesn't make my statement wrong. A lot of Catholics I know have no desire to be challenged and wouldn't know strength if it bit them on the backside.

As I said, if you prefer the Latin liturgy, you should seek it out.

I don't know if I prefer it, because I can't get to St. Agatha's at that time on Sunday.

Now, as to art, it CAN be done in English. It just takes a little effort.