[cincinnati65]

While much more eloquently stated than my original post, THIS was the source of my initial question.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

See my post #21 above. i did appear to digress a bit there, but brought it back, i hope. as to my answer to "what hath we wrought"... The Antichrist, or maybe even an entire generation of antichrists. Man without an immaterial nature (soul, spirit, what ever you wish to call it) is nothing but a very intelligent brute, without scrupples or restraint.