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Their man is Calvin, my man is Jesus Christ.

Feel free to disagree with the doctrines of grace, namely, that which is commonly called Calvinist. But this statement is simply not true, no matter how often repeated.

I'm beginning to think you Arminians all have the same little I Hate Calvin handbook somewhere from which you drag these prosaic insults.

I suspect you believe there is some sort of overriding set of uniform beliefs among Calvinists on a wide range of topics. This is actually untrue in both the modern era and historically. There is a actually a tremendous variety of other doctrinal beliefs held by those who describe themselves as Calvinist. You'll find there are actually quite a number of Calvinists who hold no particular regard for Calvin or who denounce some of his theological errors. I don't think you'll find a single "Calvinist" here who agrees with him entirely on anything.

And I doubt any of you Arminians are in complete agreement with Arminius either. And many wouldn't know the particulars of his theology even as well as we know Calvin's shortcomings.

Unfortunately, the world is never quite as flat as we would prefer it to be.

you Arminians

Here is your problem, (among others.)

You believe that I am something I am not. I am not Arminian. I do not believe that one could lose their salvation. I do not believe that a man can save himself. I have never followed those man made beliefs. If you are a Calvinist, you however do follow a man made belief.

God's truth was not lost and then rediscovered with Luther and then later Calvin. Rome is not the true church, so she never could of been reformed and indeed never shall be.

The daughters of Rome comtinue on with parts of hre heresies, including infant baptism. The true body of believers never symbolized with Rome.

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

And I doubt any of you Arminians are in complete agreement with Arminius either. And many wouldn't know the particulars of his theology even as well as we know Calvin's shortcomings.

Note to George here. I am not Arminian.