[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

If salvation is found only within the doctrine and sacraments and obedience of the Roman Church as they teach internally, then they really have no right to offer a false hope that we might be their "brethren" if we remain "separated" from the only (supposed) church of Christ which they consider to be Rome.... Given the theological claims and tradition of Rome, the term "separated brethren" can only be a non sequitur to all parties.

True, IMO -- but the only Roman Catholics with the gumption to say so anymore, are the Feeney-ite Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus SSPX "traditionalist" Roman Catholics.

Who, having been summarily "drummed out of the Corps" by the modernist Vatican II Catholics (on account of the SSPX-ers acting too much like, well, traditional Roman Catholics, I guess)... have ended up as "separated brethren" from Rome in their own right, I guess. (LOL!!)

[George W. Bush]

True, IMO -- but the only Roman Catholics with the gumption to say so anymore, are the Feeney-ite Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus SSPX "traditionalist" Roman Catholics. Who, having been summarily "drummed out of the Corps" by the modernist Vatican II Catholics (on account of the SSPX-ers acting too much like, well, traditional Roman Catholics, I guess)... have ended up as "separated brethren" from Rome in their own right, I guess. (LOL!!)

Yeah, but in many ways, I find the traditionalist claims of the SSPXers very appealing (if I had to choose RC modernists vs. traditionalists). And, as a Baptist, I should actually consider the traditionalists to be far more the real "enemy" of Baptist/Protestant principle in the modern world.

Things are getting bad when the most annoying theological opinions one can find are one's own! Fortunately for me, God revealed to me rather starkly a while back just how worthless my opinions and my most "noble" views really are. Very sobering but hopefully I'll be a little less fond of my own opinions. At least for a while.

I think I may finally be getting a small grasp of what Paul was teaching in Romans 7 and why it is so difficult for people to read and accept that passage.