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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Precisian; xzins; RnMomof7; the_doc; CCWoody; Jean Chauvin; ...
OP, then you are a heretic. I have shown you from God's Word but you reject it for your man made and man taught doctrines.

Dr. Alan Cairns, in his Dictionary of Theological Terms, defines Heresy as a deliberate denial of revealed truth, together with acceptance of error (2 Peter 2:1). The basic meaning of the Greek word HAIRESIS is 'CHOICE,' giving the meaning of heresy as a self-willed opinion in opposition to Biblical truth.
Such opinions frequently give rise to sects or parties (Acts 5:17; 15:5; 24:5,14; 26:5; 28:22; 1 Cor 11;19; Gal. 5:20). A heretic, therefore is a sectarian.

I have another newsflash for you, if you think true Biblical Christianity rest with Calvin, you are truly deluded.

I have shown you that God says whosoever believeth will be saved. You ignored what God said.
John 3:18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:36  He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life:
and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 5:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 6:40  And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:47  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

John 7:38  He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Acts 10:43  To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

I have shown you that God is not willing for any to perish.

2 Peter 3:9
 ¶The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness;
but is longsuffering to us-ward,
not willing that any should perish,
but that all should come to repentance.

The same Grace is for all men.
Titus 2:11  ¶For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men

I have shown you that God, through Paul was speaking to saved men, not in regards to salvation, but about the things of the spirit. (1 Corinthians 2:14)
I have shown you what God says the ***things of the Spirit** are. It is the inheritance prepared for those who love him. Of course an unsaved man will not know that!
You ignored that.

I have shown you that Paul was speaking to saved men regarding the battle with the FLESH, not the unsaved about unbelief. You ignored that.

Not only did you ignore the fact that you were wrong, you twisted and used Scripture to fit your own man made beliefs.

Any saved person reading Romans 7:18  (For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.)
KNOWS that Paul is speaking to a saved man. How dare you abuse the Word of God and wrest the Scriptures for your own man made doctrines?????

Examine yourself.

I have shown you that Jesus said he would draw all men unto him. You ignored that.
John 12:32  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

I have shown you that God says he would not always strive with men. You ignored that.
Genesis 6:3  ¶And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

I have shown you that Jesus will punish those who disobey the Gospel. You ignored that.

2 Thessalonians 1:7  
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10  When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

I have shown you that your church is the daughter of Rome, and that you can not Biblically support the heresy of infant Baptism. You ignore that.

Acts 8:36  
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said,
See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37  And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.
And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38  And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water,
both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

I have shown you that the Gospel is not election. I have shown you that election is due to the foreknowledge of God.You ignore that.
1 Peter 1:2  Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father

I have shown you what the Gospel is. You ignore that.
1 Corinthians 15:1
 ¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

Now, spare us this last. Keep your silly comments about me to yourself, along with your false claims. If you can't reply with Scripture that speaks to the subject, don't reply. And don't bother posting anything that is not germane to the subject.

Don't find passages speaking to saved people about matters outside of salvation and try and tell me that it means something else. Those kinds of little games are for schoolyards.

Matthew 23:37
 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee,
how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and **ye would not!**

Luke 13:34
 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee;
how often would I have gathered thy children together,
as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and **ye would not!**

448 posted on 01/02/2003 8:36:26 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael; OrthodoxPresbyterian
OP, then you are a heretic.

Then Ian Paisley is a heretic, too.

499 posted on 01/03/2003 11:50:55 AM PST by the_doc
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