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Posted on 12/22/2002 1:05:12 PM PST by Scupoli

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To: pegleg
Catholicism is Christianity my friend.

Are you playing the straight man today? :)

BigMack

41 posted on 12/23/2002 12:42:07 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: conservonator
When I refer to my self as an Iowan, dose exclude recognizing me as an American?

Can anything good come from Iowa? :)

BigMack

42 posted on 12/23/2002 12:44:25 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Are you playing the straight man today? :)

Yes. We all take turns:-)

43 posted on 12/23/2002 12:44:39 PM PST by pegleg
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To: conservonator
When I refer to my self as an Iowan, dose exclude recognizing me as an American?

Does Catholicism teach the the Catholic Church is one groups of people out of many that are members of Christ's Church?

Iowans are one group of many that are Americans.

44 posted on 12/23/2002 12:46:51 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: dramagirl1341
He founded Christianity, not any of the sects of it.

Now your getting close. Matthews gospel very clearly tells us he established a Church. Which Church do you say it is?

45 posted on 12/23/2002 12:49:16 PM PST by pegleg
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To: pegleg
Yes. We all take turns:-)

LOL...it does get worn out after a couple of years, are you getting tired of all this as I am? I think we ALL should quit, what has not been talked to death in the religion forum?

BigMack

46 posted on 12/23/2002 12:49:47 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Can anything good come from Iowa? :)

Have you seen the size of some of our deer? Corn fed giants!

sorry about tom "dung heap" harkin...and Iowegen for that matter ;)

47 posted on 12/23/2002 12:52:55 PM PST by conservonator
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
LOL...it does get worn out after a couple of years, are you getting tired of all this as I am?

I take periodic sabbaticals to refresh the battery but yes, it does get tiresome.

I think we ALL should quit, what has not been talked to death in the religion forum?

I thought you did stop posting. Are you a Freepaholic?

48 posted on 12/23/2002 12:54:22 PM PST by pegleg
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To: dramagirl1341
I didnt say anything about Jesus getting along with religious leaders of His day. See above...read again what I said. I was talking about Christendom, the Church that he founded- not religious groups of the time.

Respectfully...you are still off.

Would Christ have been unhappy with Paul or Peter when they opposed the false teachers in the early Church?

From 2 Peter:

2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Should Peter have said, "Try to work out a compromise with these false teachers, accepting some of their damnable heresies."

49 posted on 12/23/2002 12:55:57 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
Ask and you shall receive.

PRAYER TO OUR SORROWFUL MOTHER

1. For a Particular Grace: The Salvation of the Soul of Onelifetogive

MOST BLESSED and afflicted Virgin, Queen of Martyrs, who didst stand generously beneath the cross, beholding the agony of thy dying Son; by the sword of sorrow which then pierced thy soul, by the sufferings of thy sorrowful life, by the unutterable joy which now more than repays thee for them; look down with a mother's pity and tenderness, as I kneel before thee to compassionate thy sorrows, and to lay my petition with childlike confidence in thy wounded heart. I beg of thee, O my Mother, to plead continually for me with thy Son, since He can refuse thee nothing, and through the merits of His most sacred Passion and Death, together with thy own sufferings at the foot of the cross, so to touch His Sacred Heart, that I may obtain my request:

At this time of year, Holy Mother, when you gave birth to our Saviour, we ask that you help Onelifetogive overcome the hate and bitterness in his heart. We know that his sins and blasphemies against your most Immaculate Heart wound you and our Lord greatly. We ask forgiveness and make restitution in his name.

For to whom shall I fly in my wants and miseries, if not to thee, O Mother of mercy, who, having so deeply drunk the chalice of thy Son, canst most pity us poor exiles, still doomed to sigh in this vale of tears? Offer to Jesus but one drop of His Precious Blood, but one pang of His adorable Heart; remind Him that thou art our life, our sweetness, and our hope, and thou wilt obtain what I ask, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

50 posted on 12/23/2002 12:58:06 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: Onelifetogive
Does Catholicism teach the the Catholic Church is one groups of people out of many that are members of Christ's Church?

In a sense yes, but, that those outside the Church are in error. This doesn’t deny your Christianity, it just says yer' 'doin it wrong.

And to head off the inevitable " no salvation outside the Church" citation I believe will make it's appearance in one of your future posts I will direct you a very simple explanation on the subject here

51 posted on 12/23/2002 1:00:55 PM PST by conservonator
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To: pegleg
I thought you did stop posting. Are you a Freepaholic?

I cut off the internet in my office, and I don't post that much anymore, its like watching re-runs on tv, I mean really how many ways can I say I don't agree with you? :)

BigMack

52 posted on 12/23/2002 1:08:05 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: conservonator; Iowegian
sorry about tom "dung heap" harkin...and Iowegen for that matter ;)

Ok on harkin, but Iowegian is a good guy. :)

BigMack

53 posted on 12/23/2002 1:09:58 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Desdemona
If you truly believe Christ's message and follow Him, there is no death, only Eternal Life. He said it Himself. Therefore, the Blessed Mother isn't dead.

This is the same kind of word twisting that leads to absurdities as Transubstatiation, etc.

Was Paul confused about death: From Acts:

And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.

It is absurd to say that no Christian has ever died.

Christ and the Apostles used imagery to explain many things: sleep for death; earthly death for spiritual death; eating His Body; He was a Vine, a Shepherd, a Fortress, a Door, a Rock, a Cornerstone, a Temple...

Catholicism has become comical by selectively taking certain of these literally.

54 posted on 12/23/2002 1:12:04 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Iowegian
Dang, sorry Ioweian, mentioned you and forgot to ping you!

My very bad...

55 posted on 12/23/2002 1:12:23 PM PST by conservonator
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To: Onelifetogive
Stop, please, while you are somewhat ahead.

56 posted on 12/23/2002 1:13:43 PM PST by Desdemona
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To: conservonator
And to head off the inevitable " no salvation outside the Church" citation...

I have learned that no Catholic teaching has a certain enough meaning that it cannot be denied as needed.

57 posted on 12/23/2002 1:15:18 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: conservonator
And to head off the inevitable " no salvation outside the Church" citation...

I have learned that no Catholic teaching has a certain enough meaning that it cannot be denied as needed.

58 posted on 12/23/2002 1:15:19 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
What do you mean by heresies? Jesus founded Christianity.... what, are you saying Jesus was a false teacher? Or is it Martin Luther King?
59 posted on 12/23/2002 1:16:27 PM PST by dramagirl1341
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To: Desdemona
somewhat ahead

You really think so???

Cool

60 posted on 12/23/2002 1:17:05 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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