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I have never said a word about Lefabvre. I have not denied that things are "abnormal" I simply say that things are ALWAYS "abnormal." But there are never going to hell. Somehow we stop short of that cliff. The present crisis in the Church is bad, but let us not forget that two hundred years ago, the papacy came within an inch of being snuffed out by Napoleon. It's actual ascendency to a centrality of control of the universal Church took place after that low point. If we look at the Church in the mid 16th Century before the Council did its work, we see a bad situation that WAS remedied when God raised up such saints as Phillip Neri.