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To: Zviadist
Typical dishonest response when proven wrong: attack the source of the information...

<> So, when you attack the Documents of an Infallible Ecumenical Council that is ok but when St Chuck describes an author of a book as a propagandist that is "dishonest?"<>

799 posted on 12/05/2002 11:29:53 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
So, when you attack the Documents of an Infallible Ecumenical Council

Which infallible Council? Pope Paul VI and Pope John XXIII both asserted that Vatican II was not an infallible Council. Are YOU questioning the pope?

There will be no infallible definitions. All that was done by former Councils. That is enough.
--Pope John XXIII (apud Fr. Yves Congar)

The magisterium of the Church did not wish to pronounce itself under the form of extraordinary dogmatic pronouncements....
--Pope Paul VI, discourse closing Vatican II, December 7, 1965

The rite [of the New Mass] by itself is NOT a dogmatic definition.
--Pope Paul VI, November 19, 1969, Apostolic Constitution, "Missale Romanum

Differing from other Councils, this one was not directly dogmatic, but disciplinary and pastoral.
--Pope Paul VI, August 6, 1975, General Audience
Again: are you defying these popes???
804 posted on 12/05/2002 11:43:18 AM PST by Zviadist
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