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To the extent this is leverage to take a poke at the otherside, I'd prefer not to be your sharp stick. Hope you understand.

I completely understand and would not dream of asking you to defend my points or to be used against the others. It would be improper for me to ask and improper for you to do so. My comments were just to say that it is nice having an objective observer to chime in with some interesting insights, delivered without malice. You may despise me and my views. That is fine. It still does not change that I have admired your posts on this thread.

I do not despise you at all. And I appreciate the kind words. I appreciate the opportunity to be a "nice heretic" and make some comments, ask some questions and exchange ideas. I understand the intensity of the threads given the depth of conviction on both sides.