[BlackElk]

As I recall, Karol Wojtlywa was an actual active member of the anti-Nazi underground long before he became a priest much less a pope. I think he and his defenders will know if defiance and disobedience are in order. We will strive to see to it that you will be informed in the unlikely event during his papacy that such are in order.

[saradippity]

I'm looking like a wild lady for that magnificent post you wrote suggesting that Cardinal Law made a public apology and send it to everyone and step down. Where is it?

I can't link but there is a very interesting article posted late tonight by Katracks. The article is by Pat Buchanan and is about the President of Harvard apologizing for the way a little group of perverts was punished by the University in 1920.Somehow I connect it with what is happening right now in the Church.I would be so interested in how the ringleaders of this group were connected in society.If you can find it I would be interested in your take on it. Thanks.

[ultima ratio]

You recall incorrectly. Karol Wojtlywa, did not serve in the anti-Nazi underground, as you say, though he was an actor in a prohibited troupe which gave solace to the population with plays which were patriotic and inspiring. But he never fought. In any case his role during the war is beside the point. So is his exemplary role as a world statesman. What is at issue is his papacy, which has been a clear failure--unless it had been his intention to expedite the wreckage of the pre-conciliar Church. We do not need a creative pope. We need a man of order and discipline who will protect Sacred Tradition. This he has not done.