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To: BlackElk
Should we also have avoided all those hackneyed accusations of "schismatic" and "heretic" against Luther.

If words like "schismatic" and "heretic" have some meaning, then they must apply to someone like Luther. But when you use them to attack every person with whom you disagree, then they lose their meaning.

The point was "Would you use the same old hackneyed accusations to attack Fr. Somerville?" It looks like the answer is "Yes." But when you don't have any other arguments, then I guess you have to keep using the only one that you have.

53 posted on 11/30/2002 1:51:15 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
I disagree with Red Sox fans but they are not necessarily schismatic much less heretical.

Fr. Somerville who is temporarily titillating the SSPX crowd after many years of service deconstructing the rubrics on ICEL OR John Paul II, successor of Peter. I'm still going with JPII!

Why do schismatic and heretic apply to a pope mugger like Luther and not to Lefebvre, SSPX and Company? Is it because the Lefebvrite crew imagine themselves as defenders of the faith? So did Henry VIII and so did Luther, to name just two.

I can be accused of many things but never among them are accusations that I:

1. Cite Cardinal Cassidy as authority;

2. Regard the Roman Catholic Church as some sort of debating society where the fantasies of the rebellious have equal standing with the pronouncements on matters of faith and morals of the popes; or

3. That I lack arguments.

59 posted on 11/30/2002 2:53:31 PM PST by BlackElk
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