[ninenot]

PLease--you simply do NOT accept ALL the Popes--especially the current one--but most likely, if you are true to form, you haven't accepted John XXIII, Paul VI, JPI, in addition.

As to your first attempt at argument: the ESSENCE of the Mass is also present in the NO, and that's that. Refusal to believe so is rejection of the authority of Peter's successor.

As to your second, even more pathetic attempt: to equate modernization with modernism is to attempt to have the canary swallow the elephant. But, in your world.....

Last, I have been about as Christian as I can with you and your despicable juvenile delinquency. Christianity, as you may not know, also requires a certain amount of loving discipline. Calling a spade a spade, my man, is part of the discipline.

Of couse, you don't like it.

[Zviadist]

the ESSENCE of the Mass is also present in the NO, and that's that. Refusal to believe so is rejection of the authority of Peter's successor.

Interesting. When, exactly, was the authority of the Chair Saint Peter invoked with regard to the New Mass? When has any pope invoked infallibility with regard to the promulgation of the the New Mass? Or do you understand the Catholic doctrine of infallibility at all?

[Zviadist]

Last, I have been about as Christian as I can with you and your despicable juvenile delinquency.

From your posts, it appears you are the one who is juvenile. Are you even in college yet, boy?

you simply do NOT accept ALL the Popes--especially the current one--but most likely, if you are true to form, you haven't accepted John XXIII, Paul VI, JPI, in addition.

I know it may be hard for you to grasp, but there have been quite a few before the three you mention. Imagine that...