[xzins]

Culture doesn't count with Jesus.

He didn't pick women to be elders because he didn't want to. Not because the "culture" made him nervous.

He wouldn't smile on misusing God's money whether it was 1st century Judaism (Ananias & Saphira), 15th century Europe (gold & gem-studded scepters), or 21st century Boston (legal payments to victims of abuse; huge expenses for crystal cathedrals; ripping off of retirees in Jim Bakker retirement scams.)

I am not clueless. I'm actually rather friendly and have been so throughout.

[Codie]

He didn't pick women to be elders because he didn't want to.

How do you know that?

[pegleg]

I'm actually rather friendly and have been so throughout.

Ok

You consider the Church decisively authoritative OVER the scripture.

So which came first, the Church or the New Testament?