You, Terry, are the one making a fool of himself. To have a list of 4 people, one of them Jesus, and to imply that we are thus making one of them divine is foolish.
Adam and Eve were created into a perfect world..they were created innocent.
Yes. No disagreement. They were human beings who had not sin. Does that mean they were "gods"? It doesn't to me, it seems to to you.
They fell for all of us...unless you have suspended original sin
Well, duh. Yes, this is exactly what we are talking about. Mary was conceived in St. Ann's womb without the transmission of Original Sin.
Was St Ann also sinless?
No, why would you think so?
SD
Adam and Eve were NOT born , they were created in the image of God..the Bible tells us that when they fell we all fell
Now you try to liken them to Mary being born the only fully human person since Adam and Eve fell without sin .You just prove you do not understand the fall, the nature of the fall or its full impact on men. (read Romans 1,2 and 3)
It was BECAUSE of that fall that Jesus ,the sinless one ,had to come..He had to live a sinless life and yet be tested in every way as we are (read Hebrews)..THEN He had to pay the full penality for sins that He never committed FOR US
You just lump Adam and Eve and Mary together because unless you do that your doctrine does not work
Adam and Eve fell for all of us...unless you have suspended original sin
Well, duh. Yes, this is exactly what we are talking about. Mary was conceived in St. Ann's womb without the transmission of Original Sin.
A doctrine of man contrary to scripture...which say all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God(Romans).You claim that even though Mary never claimed that for herself..She said she needed a savior (read Luke)..so either she knew she was sinful or she lied..which would have been a sin
Was St Ann also sinless?
No, why would you think so?
Well you seem to feel that to birth a sinless man the mother must then be sinless..so Ann must have been sinless too, and her mother and her mother all the way back to Noah