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To: xzins
It's not a guess. It's a process of evaluting choices that I learned through a 20 year career in the Army.

This sounds like a dodge xzins. You stated previously you had an opinion regarding premillennialism and the answer was fuzzy . This does not sound like you know. My question had to do with knowing rather that guessing at Truth. Based on your response I take it you don’t think its possible to know the Truth. This is not the message of the gospel.

You get some distance with the Church sayings of Jesus. Those are biblical facts. Ideally, a church will be properly operating.

Another dodge. I wanted to know if you agree that Christ left us the Church to teach and defend the Truth.

The churches in the book of revelation tell us that some churches are closer to the truth than are others. Those that were failing were obviously not correct in the things the Lord was chastising them over.

The Churches in Revelation had the Truth and some were being chastised for not being faithful to it.

I consider the catholic opinion if I know it.

Do you ever seek the Catholic teaching if you don’t know it?

So do I sound like some kind of rapid, unreasonable guy?

Not at all.

I don't like the marian theologies, the opulence, the transsubstantiation theology (as I understand it), the celibacy theology, others that I can't remember at the moment.

I guess that’s the bottom line isn’t it? You don’t like.

Could it be you don’t understand? Could it be you do understand but don’t agree? The point I have been trying to make is the Bible does tell us where to find the Truth.

287 posted on 11/21/2002 5:18:47 AM PST by pegleg
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To: pegleg
This sounds like a dodge xzins. You stated previously you had an opinion regarding premillennialism and the answer was fuzzy . This does not sound like you know. My question had to do with knowing rather that guessing at Truth. Based on your response I take it you don’t think its possible to know the Truth. This is not the message of the gospel.

It's no dodge. I said that the premill theology was pretty strong. 70/30 is a strong case. PRE-TRIB at 51/49 is not very strong.

The resurrection is 100% or 100/0. There are the primary doctrines of the church that are clearly in the realm of certainty. You can maintain if you wish that premillennialism is a necessary doctrine for salvation, but I don't think so.

The church response is not a dodge. The universal church is mystical. On earth we have believers combined in various churches and those are connected in Christ to one another. They can form various unions and highlight different emphases.....a denomination is really little different than is an "order" within your church. Little more than a different emphasis. The churches in Revelation had STRAYED from the truth, proving thereby, that there was no infallibility extant within them.

You didn't mention what I do like.

What do you like about the Methodist Churches? Tell me all you know about it and all our historic particular emphases?

289 posted on 11/21/2002 5:26:56 AM PST by xzins
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