Afraid You’ll be Left Behind? The Rapture Trap.

The National Review ^ | November 18, 2002 | Rod Dreher

[malakhi]

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

You're one of the few Catholics one here that I respect, you will talk about what you believe with someone not Catholic, watch out that could put you in a bad light with other catholics on here.

Back to work, see ya. :)

BigMack

[Codie]

If you post thoughtful reasoned replies why should you worry about being banned?

[american colleen]

Yikes! That isn't you is it? ;-)

[Pyro7480]

That's why Paul Thigpen, a Yale-trained religious historian and Catholic convert, wrote The Rapture Trap.

Mr. Thigpen also compiled a beautiful collection of prayers and related religious passages titled "Jesus, We Adore You: Prayers Before the Blessed Sacrament." They have a copy in the eucharistic adoration chapel in my home parish, and I've read from it numerous times. It's an awesome collection, and Mr. Thigpen actually authored some of the prayers in the collection, most of which are really good.

[malakhi]

Yikes! That isn't you is it? ;-)

Nah, just thought I'd post something other than the typical young, slim Elvis picture. ;o)

BTW, the rumors of Elvis's Jewish background are apparently untrue.

[american colleen]

Well... thanks, I think. However, I think you are wrong, although not for respecting me of course ;-), but because everyone on the religious forum on FR discusses their faith with others who don't agree with them, same faith or different. Otherwise, what's the point?

You think the Catholics on FR would look at me in a bad light because I discuss my faith and belief in Catholicism with others? You bin reading way, way too much Loraine Boettner!

[american colleen]

BTW, the rumors of Elvis's Jewish background are apparently untrue.

Whew. I was sweating that one out. He looks like a nice Baptist boy and his mama said so, anyway.

This thread has gone to hell in a handbasket. Oh well. I thought Mr. Dreher's piece was thought provoking and well written and cited genuine links to dispensationalism from dispensationalist sites. I didn't realize the subject was so fraught with emotion for some.

[american colleen]

Thanks, Pyro. I put the book in my handy-dandy Amazon basket. I recently read "Shaken by Scandals" which he wrote. It was excellent.

[RnMomof7]

Yes I pushed the abuse botton on Poly..He was posting a year old personal freep mail as if it was recent one that .He had previously posted that mail in his attempt to get the writer banned. Sometimes if too much daylight is shone folks want to pull the shades

I received mail from people that thought it was a new mail, so it seemed the deception was intentional

I rarely push abuse and when I do I own up to it..the only reason you know I hit abuse is because I told ya patent..I could have been a sneak and sent out freepmails condeming him and telling other people to go after him and get him banned..I did not do that .

I am very straight up patent ..If I push abuse I tell (so far that has been I think 4 times in 4 years or so..and every time I said on the thread that it was I that pushed it.)

It really does not matter much if you believe me or not. I have a judge that is perfect in all His ways..

I do not like deception, I do not like a pack mentality that runs off people that you do not agree with ..I do not like trying to get people banned because your pride was wounded.

Often when people that I have had strong disagreements with on the threads say they are leaving I write to encourage them to stay.I am not into Kabals

[RnMomof7]

It was a good post Colleen..there is a bit of a doctrinal difference between the Catholic view and the Postmil and Amil protestants..but we do agree when Christ comes it will be in judgement

[theAmbassador]

John 5:28 is just the medication you need for your rapture fever. When you read what it says honestly, then you will abandon your quirky readings of scripture. Besides, if you will plainly read what Rev 20 is literally saying, then you will realize your interpretations of scripture can't possibly be correct.

Apart from all that, who would want to live in this millennial kingdom that you guys talk about anyway? There will be hyprocritical sin everywhere to go with a God whom you must still see through a glass darkly. Therefore, as the Psalter says:

"Because Thy statues are despised, with overwhelming grief I weep!"

[patent]

Yes I pushed the abuse botton on Poly..He was posting a year old personal freep mail as if it was recent one that .He had previously posted that mail in his attempt to get the writer banned.

LOL. Are you claiming that you have no problem with posting a personal freeper mail, only with posting one that is a year old as if it was a recent one?

Sometimes if too much daylight is shone folks want to pull the shades

Pulling the shades is exactly what you did in getting that freeper mail deleted so that it wasn’t there for all to read.

patent  +AMDG

[Codie]

I wish you two would both shut-up and continue your dispute privately.

[patent]

I wish you two would both shut-up and continue your dispute privately.

Not going to happen. To many people abuse freepermail to say things they wouldn’t say publicly, and the whole point of this is to demonstrate to the world the fraud behind their actions. She says one thing publicly, and another privately. Just like she said one thing on the thread we’ve been referring to, and now claims another. I am not going to go private with someone like that, as she will scream if her words are ever held against her.

patent  +AMDG

[Siobhan]

Now that is my kind of nun!

[LiteKeeper]

Isn't interesting that not once does the author of this article, nor do you, deal with any of the scriptures that those of us who believe in the Rapture quote.

There are a lot of things that I have questions about, but when I read them in the Scriptures, written by the Creator God of the universe, I tend to believe them (it's called "faith") and look for substantiation later.

[LiteKeeper]

"trap" - which is what?

Proof that Lindsey is wrong?

[RnMomof7]

Pulling the shades is exactly what you did in getting that freeper mail deleted so that it wasn’t there for all to read.

It was never intended for "all to read" that is why it was sent in private freep mail .If the author intended a general post he would have made it...that is why it is called private mail

I am sure you must have read it at least one of the other times Dr Pureheart posted it ..he was determined to post it till he got the result he wanted..just like running off a new RC freeper cause she would not toe the line..

That is a Kabal Patent..Codie is correct ..if you wish to discuss this further we can do it in PRIVATE

[LiteKeeper]

NB: Paul was the author of 1 Thessalonians, from whic this doctrine is derived. Check it out.