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OP, perhaps you can look into Milton's and/or Ralston's potential flirtation with Unitarianism (which Socinianism was the precursor to).

Ralston's Elements were intended to be a 'judicious abridgement' of Richard Watson's Theological Institutes; or a View of the Evidences, Doctrines, Morals and Institutions of Christianity. Watson--and Ralston--both speak out strongly against Socinianism in their works (Ralston less so than Watson because the Socinians were less prevalent in America than in Britain, not to mention that they were dying out by that point, anyway). I don't know about Milton, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since Ralston quotes him favorably.

Winston is a Wesleyan they do not generally believe ion Gods foreknowlege..it would interfer with free will too much--Mom

Actually, Wesleyans believe in God's foreknowledge. They just recognize that foreknowledge does not equal predestination, that foreknowledge isn't causative.

Sorry about not getting the stuff on moral probation to you yesterday, Mom--I was out later than I expected, and I'm about to head out again, but I will make an effort to get that to you today.

Actually, Wesleyans believe in God's foreknowledge. They just recognize that foreknowledge does not equal predestination, that foreknowledge isn't causative.

No Grammar I posted for years on a Wesleyan site.. 95% of the pastors and theologins that posted on it did not believe in God's foreknowledge. They believe God "chooses " not to use His foreknowlege..

As my Nazarene Pastor told me absolute foreknowlege = Predestination ..and gram it DOES

Regarding the roots of the " new" heresy

Some early proponents of opennes theology are Calcidius (5'th century Christian), Andrew Ramsay (one of John Wesley's contemporaries), and Adam Clarke (18'th century Methodist). For others see my God Who Risks p. 311 n. 106; p. 313 n. 122; p. 324 n. 125. John Sanders

Note your favorite commentator in there

"I don't know about Milton, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt since Ralston quotes him favorably."

I did a little 'googling' and found (not to my utter amazement) that the Universalists claim Milton as one of their own.

That does not necessarily mean much as they probably are willing to fudge a little bit to raise up their 'numbers'. (Homosexual groups tend to list everybody under the sun as gay as well.) However, you'd never find a Calvin, Luther, Melanchthon, Bucer, Ursinus, Olivianus or deBras listed on one of their sites.

Jean