[editor-surveyor]

"Now why anyone would call this salvation by "faith alone" is a different question. It is stated here most clearly that we can never know we are saved except that we have good works."

Hey this is an easy one Dave; the salvation is not by works, the works are by salvation. - If there are no visible works, then the alleged salvation was not real.

(...not of works, lest any man should boast...)

[SoothingDave]

Hey this is an easy one Dave; the salvation is not by works, the works are by salvation. - If there are no visible works, then the alleged salvation was not real.

Right. So works are necessary for salvation --- we all agree without them that salvation is not "real." No matter hwo much a person wants to believe they are "justified" by faith alone, they still have to get off the sofa and do some works.

They must. It is necessary.

SD