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To: Salvation
It was a statement of frustration, that's all. I saw nothing new in the article apologetically and these discussions quickly become debates, then arguments, and before you know it many people who are trying to defend Christ are acting like anybody but.

I continue to weigh very seriously the claims and positions of the Roman Catholic Church. I have not yet seen anything put forth convincing enough FOR ME to make me change my mind. If at some point in the future I am convicted by the Spirit and turn the the Catholic Church, let Christ be true and me a liar...I will go. But until and unless such as that happens, I cannot help but hold to my convictions out of devotion to Him to Whom I belong.

Thank you. May He bless you as well.

20 posted on 10/29/2002 12:57:16 PM PST by Frumanchu
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To: Frumanchu
Was there no Church before the Reformation?

Was Christ's promise denied until Luther decided that he was the Pope?

I was raised as an Epicopalian and as such I had to learn the Nicene Creed and recite it to the Bishop whan I was 12 years old. The words "one Holy and Apostolic Church came back to me after I had fallen away into what passes for Christianity in todays liberal society. Namely, I said that I believed in Jesus, and the Lords prayer, and that wa enough. In other words I had decided that I was the authority and Christ was all I needed. I set myself up as the judge of all things and pretended to hide behind Jesus.

But the Church has always been the Body of Christ.

Even Paul, one of the greatest sinners and creators of error through his persecution of the Church, was forgiven when he realized that it was Jesus that he wounded.

If you have a problem with members of your family is it fruitful to go start a new one? I say no, love demands that you amend the family that is yours. Therefore, pretending that your Church is illegitimate is wrong, it is like declaring your marriage with it's five children and your parents and grandparents as void because they have sinned.

This is the issue with us Protestants; do we want a church of saints, or can we tolerate a church of sinners?

82 posted on 10/30/2002 6:56:05 PM PST by RichardMoore
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