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This is why I think we should be rather sobered to notice the vicious character of the defenses which have been offered by some Arminians for their soteriological position. They really do act as though their salvation depends on us Calvinists being wrong.

Interesting observation! I think you are correct in this. This is probably why, after I pointed out that according to their own Principles of Literal Bible Interpretation they are actually basing the 1000 year reign of Christ on this earth from a single passage of scripture, Corin descended into his vicious attacks and was immediately joined by Revelation 911.

The Arminian is just hoping that he can convince the Calvinist he is wrong in order to convince himself that he is right. They really do act as though their salvation depends on us Calvinists being wrong.

It might also demonstrate why [xzins] has accused Ambassador and myself of not answering his question when we had already answered it over and over and over again. Then there was his assertation that we amillennialists actually believe and/or said that there will be death in the New Heavens and the New Earth. I must admit, that I was a bit baffled by these rants.

I'll point out that xzins made his assertation that we amillennialists actually believe and/or said that there will be death in the New Heavens and the New Earth after we had clearly shown him that we didn't believe this. So, I think you are being far to gracious to merely call this a rant. It is nothing more than a 9th commandment violation of bearing false witness against us to score points.

Corin descended into his vicious attacks...

Look guys. I don't think you really want to turn this into another "It's all Ward's fault" thread anymore than I do.

I'm NOT going to debate you guys, particularly on this issue. Because, like I've said before I'm just not sure I have an opinion (yet). Because of where I currently am, I would certainly lean to the pre side. But I'm in no way convinced. Nor am I in any way competent enough to discuss the issue (thus the lurking, trolling, prowling - whatever you want to call it).

I don't like arguing with you guys and I don't like who I am when I argue with you guys. Thus my earlier comment to Shadow.

But if you insist on pinging me/talking about me, you ought to know if there's any game I can (and will) play, it's that one. Fer cryin' out loud, y'all really are much to intelligent and too competent to let me bother you as much as I appear to.